(June 3, 2021 at 7:47 am)no one Wrote: This Guy:
I hate everyone, regardless of any affiliation.

Juan Perez:
Even if they give you tacos?

Do not confuse my appreciation for culinary perfection and gastronomical delight for fondness, good will, or harmony.

LOL.
Ok, I won't.

That being said, I shall expect said tacos.
Pollo Asada
Carne Asada
Al Pastor
Flan

(June 3, 2021 at 7:34 am)johndoe122931 Wrote:

(June 3, 2021 at 7:29 am)brewer Wrote: Inaccurate claims of christian oppression.

Another question, should the fire department show up when your church is on fire?

What oppression did I claim? 

Yes, the fire department should show up to a building that is on fire regardless of what the building is used for.

That crap about being hurt by removing in god we trust and under god in the pledge. Our currency (manufactured by the state) contains a religious belief added because of cold war fears. The cold war is over. Under god was also added due to the cold war. Those actions were not necessary for the 178 years prior. Keeping it is special privilege for the religious. But OMG, talk about removing those words and you go off.

Fire departments are primarily funded through local property taxes. Churches don't pay property taxes. Why should the church get a service that they don't help pay for? Again this should be viewed as special privilege.

Your religious false entitlement is showing. It's almost childish.

Edit, late addition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privilege

(June 3, 2021 at 7:21 am)tackattack Wrote: Amazing research. You mean to tell me 2 diametrically opposed groups dislike each other? /sarcasm

I don't see them as any more diametrically opposed than Buddhists, yet Buddhists are better liked. You're minimizing the reality for Reasons[tm].

(June 3, 2021 at 7:21 am)tackattack Wrote: I dislike arguing with atheist, but that doesn’t mean I dislike atheists. Both of those are a far cry from hating anyone. I’m certain non of the question in those studies was “do you hate atheist?”

Don't be disingenuous. The results of numerous studies confirm it. Now you're just trying to deny reality. It's not a good look.

(June 3, 2021 at 7:21 am)tackattack Wrote: Honestly I would expect a minority group of typically hyper-skeptical, opinionated, vocal nonconformists with axes to grind to be on the colder side of many social scenarios.

So you're a bigot who lumps atheists as a whole into a stereotype which religious people have helped to create. Atheists are no more this stereotype than women are all gold diggers and blacks are all lazy. It's similar to the old, "I don't hate homosexuals, I just wish they'd stop kissing in public; it's disgusting." It's just a convenient bit of prejudice for you to hang your hat on. You're fine with atheists as long as they don't open their mouths, because if they do, then they become hyper-skeptical, opinionated, non-conformists. This is not a new approach. Groups have been oppressed throughout the ages by demanding that if they exist at all, that they try to be invisible. It's been used by haters of Jews, of blacks, of women, of gays, and now by you.

(June 3, 2021 at 7:21 am)tackattack Wrote: Both sides operate with an exaggerated Pygmalion effect was my only point. I don’t hate atheist and I assume atheists don’t hate me.  I assume most people’s reactions are not carefully curated speech, but reactions to beliefs and outside elements.Do you assume Christians would say something negative if u stated to them directly “hey, I’m an atheist, I was wondering why u hate me for my beliefs”

My question was why religious people dislike atheists more than even people who worship false gods. Your response has been to deny, and then to try to have your cake and eat it too by providing a stereotype to justify that dislike. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Apparently the subject makes you feel uncomfortable enough to lie and dissemble about it.

IMHO gained over the last year, AF is more lively and entertaining when religious members are active. When religious members contribute less, such as happened about a year ago, the threads get stale quicker. I debated with myself about whether to become active again since the discussions did not seem interesting any more. But I reminded myself that it is up to members, like me, to make positive contributions, which is what I am trying to do and remaining mindful that people are more than the sum of their beliefs. Disliking someone for their beliefs feels rather juvenile to me.

(June 2, 2021 at 12:08 pm)johndoe122931 Wrote: The fact is atheists are extremely disrespectful towards our God. Simple as that. You can disagree with what I said and that's fine. 

Not sure how we can be disrespectful towards your God rather than a particular portrayal of your God that you may not agree with but fits an idea of God millions of believers hold. If you don't agree with the characterization then it's not YOUR God that's being referred to. Dawkins is clearly talking about a God of biblical literalism.

On a side note, don't you think you're overgeneralizing hundreds of millions of atheists based on a pretty small sample size?

(June 3, 2021 at 9:10 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Disliking someone for their beliefs feels rather juvenile to me.

At least it's not childish like believing in a magic man in the sky.

(June 3, 2021 at 7:21 am)tackattack Wrote: Amazing research. You mean to tell me 2 diametrically opposed groups dislike each other? /sarcasm

I dislike arguing with atheist, but that doesn’t mean I dislike atheists. Both of those are a far cry from hating anyone. I’m certain non of the question in those studies was “do you hate atheist?”

Honestly I would expect a minority group of typically hyper-skeptical, opinionated, vocal nonconformists with axes to grind to be on the colder side of many social scenarios.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25590340/

(June 2, 2021 at 12:08 pm)johndoe122931 Wrote: The fact is atheists are extremely disrespectful towards our God. Simple as that. You can disagree with what I said and that's fine. 

*Cough*

This coming from the person who's quite happy to denegrate other's dietys.

Pretty sure the natives of most country's would be rather miffed about your outlook in regards to their beliefs. Considering the 'Johhny come lately' that Yahweh is. (In some cases by thousands of years late).

Jus' sayin'.

Not at work.

People have a right to disrespect gods, sacred symbols, your sensibilities, feelings, ridicule your religion.

At least they have that right to disrespect and offend in free countries. That's why the founding fathers didn't make this country on some religious principles, but secular, humanist principles.

Where people don't have these freedoms is in theocracies.

The moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible.