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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm
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(June 16, 2021 at 12:19 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Only the ones that want to stay profitable.
You dumbasses think you can legislate a market.
Ask the Soviets.... See how well that works out.
Oh - wait... No Soviets anymore....
Tihe Russians are still paying for the stupidity you want to jump headlong into....
What do you see as the central failure of the CCCP economic model? Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
(June 16, 2021 at 12:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Only the ones that want to stay profitable.
You dumbasses think you can legislate a market.
Ask the Soviets.... See how well that works out.
Oh - wait... No Soviets anymore....
The Russians are still paying for the stupidity you want to jump headlong into....
Does it bother you at all that your labour market is being regulated by people who want to be paid more?
Boru You mean the Biden administration?
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 12:54 pm
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(June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:19 pm)Angrboda Wrote: What do you see as the central failure of the CCCP economic model? Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
So I take it you're not going to answer her question? The one that asks you to explain why you think actually expecting companies to pay their workers something above starvation wages is like the Soviet planned economy?
Or do you legit believe the Soviet economy didn't work because Moscow demanded that bosses actually pay their workers something resembling a decent wage?
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 12:59 pm
(June 16, 2021 at 12:54 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
So I take it you're not going to answer her question? The one that asks you to explain why you think actually expecting companies to pay their workers something above starvation wages is like the Soviet planned economy?
Or do you legit believe the Soviet economy didn't work because Moscow demanded that bosses actually pay their workers something resembling a decent wage?
Here's a hint.... I'm not answering your insulting shit anymore....
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 1:02 pm
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So, I take it you don't actually know what you're talking about when you liken paying people $15/hour to the Soviet planned economy.
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 1:39 pm
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Quote:Only the ones that want to stay profitable.
You dumbasses think you can legislate a market.
Ask the Soviets.... See how well that works out.
Oh - wait... No Soviets anymore....
The Russians are still paying for the stupidity you want to jump headlong into....
Are seriously trying to compare raising the minimum wage and minimalist labor regulation to the freaking Soviet Union. Holy shit get some fucking perspective fool.
Quote:Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
So asking you a question makes her a Communist. What drugs are you on?
Quote:Here's a hint.... I'm not answering your insulting shit anymore...
Coming from a snaky asshole like you. That's fucking rich.
Quote:You mean the Biden administration?
What the fuck are you even talking about? 
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 3:45 pm
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(June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:19 pm)Angrboda Wrote: What do you see as the central failure of the CCCP economic model? Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
Can you answer the question or not? I challenge you to prove them wrong about you by answering the question. Or, you can continue acting like a buffoon.
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 3:56 pm
(June 16, 2021 at 3:45 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (June 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Lemme guess...
The Evil West ruined our Worker Paradise?
Da, comrade?
Can you answer the question or not? I challenge you to prove them wrong about you by answering the question. Or, you can continue acting like a buffoon. Biker seems to have embraced the rightwing tactic of calling everything "Communism"
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 4:05 pm
This isn't going to be popular but here goes...
Large businesses should be willing and able to pay their employees a living wage. What happens when/if the $15.00 minimum wage becomes law is that it pushes out the small mom and pop businesses. When you raise wages you also raise the amount of taxes that have to be paid by the employer as well as increasing worker's comp as it's based on the dollar amount of your payroll. Those small local businesses could be lost if they are held to the same standard as the big companies.
There are often benefits to working for a small company. More flexibility. You are more than an employee number and often have the opportunity to learn various aspects of the business and not just your one certain task.
I am all for the companies who can paying their people more and/or providing better benefits such as insurance and paid time off but not at the cost of squeezing the mom and pop shops out.
This really isn't an all or nothing decision. A sliding scale would make more sense.
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 4:08 pm
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What small businesses? Pretty sure they went extinct in the last round of free market totes cool expansion. Or, if they didn't, then how many times are we going to have to hear them cry wolf while stubbornly refusing to cease to exist? IIRC, the point of our capitalist system is to allow for the free movement of capital, not the hording of wealth or even the preservation of wealth in the small business castes.
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RE: Raising the minimum wage won't help
June 16, 2021 at 4:10 pm
(June 16, 2021 at 4:08 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What small businesses? Pretty sure they went extinct in the last round of free market totes cool expansion. Or, if they didn't, then how many times are we going to have to hear them cry wolf while stubbornly refusing to cease to exist?
Downtown where I live is lined with mom and pop stores. Not sure where you are but they do still exist.
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