(July 6, 2021 at 11:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It’s a testament to the power and necessity of social shaming.

It’s not illegal to be a white supremacist, but even white supremacists are ashamed to give voice to what they know themselves to be.

Puts their constant complaints about how society is telling them to be ashamed of their whiteness in context.

I’m not hearing it, nobody says as much to me... but they are.  Maybe it’s not their whiteness that the white grievance complex refers to?

Of course, the rise of the alt-right shows how social shaming can backfire. White supremacists are rightly shamed for their execrable ideology, and this ends up reinforcing pre-existing racist groups and creating new hate groups where previously there had only been jackasses on message boards with very shitty opinions. And once a politician with their views actually ends up becoming popular, it results in them becoming more visible and powerful than they have been in half a century. And sometimes, it suckers in idiots who feel attacked for their unexamined beliefs and ends up feeding them lines if they don’t have the brains to see through their bullshit. 

Not saying social shaming isn’t important or necessary. Just that it’s a double edged sword.

(July 6, 2021 at 10:33 am)Nomad Wrote:

(July 5, 2021 at 1:07 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: How many other alt-righters out there do you think voted for Justin Trudeau, the Liberal Prime Minister of Rainbow Unicorn Land?

Not you anyway, you're just a bullshitter.  Oh and would it hurt you to have he honesty to admit what you are, nazi?

I'll gladly admit what I am. I'm not even a nationalist, let alone a Nazi.

You are only confirming to me that I am right in the stances I've taken. You step out of line even a little bit, and you're a Nazi. I'm the Nazi for taking the side that 81 percent of black people agree with, but white feminazis who are sorry they were born white and hate themselves for it see themselves as the white saviour who's going to save the blacks by telling them that they are wrong and they need the white saviour to do what's best for them in defunding the police, even though blacks want nothing to do with it. You are the one cheering on the Antifa clowns attempting to burn down courthouses, as if that's going to fix society. You're a real bright fella, aren't ya?

If you want me to give the alt-right their props, I'll be glad to do so when they're right. The left told me that the feminazi authoritarians were only a small loud minority and that I shouldn't worry about them, but the alt-right was proven right. The establishment wants what the feminazis want in terms of censorship, etc, so they didn't need to have huge numbers to succeed. The alt-right warned about the direction the trans thing was going, and they were proven right. Trans women are now slinging out their cocks and showing them off to 9 and 14 year old girls in spas. Now, I'm completely fine with nudism if the people in that society agree upon it, but it should be a choice in our societies. Women did not sign up to have their little girls have dick slung in their face in spas or changing rooms that are supposed to be spaces for bio women. The alt-right is correct about guns. Gun rights are being taken away little by little. It was never a thing that was going to happen all at once. I was told that Christians were being ridiculous to think their rights were going to be taken away, but at least here in Canada, Christian preachers have been arrested after being assaulted by violent homosexual savages. Christians are being charged for holding outdoor church services and for holding outdoor rallies. If standing with my Christian brothers or defending a police officers right to due process and a fair trial makes me a Nazi in your feminazi eyes, then so be it.

Feminazi?? Really?

The things that positively identify you as an alt right nut have nothing to do with whatever thing you might virtue signal over, but in your repeated insistence that the alt right...is right.

You don’t like the term, but you advocate for the ideology. That’s what makes you what you are, what makes anyone what they are.

(July 7, 2021 at 12:43 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Feminazi?? Really?

Yes. That's not a knock on feminists. It's a knock on feminazis, who are authoritarians and want to silence their opposition. If you're just a regular old feminist, that's cool. So am I.

(July 7, 2021 at 12:24 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I was told that Christians were being ridiculous to think they're rights were going to be taken away, but at least here in Canada, Christian preachers have been arrested after being assaulted by violent homosexual savages. Christians are being charged for holding outdoor church services and for holding outdoor rallies.

I think you are reading a bit too much alt-right news.

Preacher was being a jerk on the street, and was confronted by some angry people who blocked his path.  Neither were arrested, because no laws were broken.  I like how you call them "violent homosexual savages".  He even played the race-card (being black), insinuating that anyone who was against him was racist.

Street Preacher Alleges Assault

As for the second one, an alt-right church, declaring themselves above the law, decided to break health rules.  You may believe that the right to kill your members is the absolute right of a church, but the government disagrees.  That was after they were already charged for indoor services.  Were the outdoor services safe?  Perhaps if done right, but they did not work with health authorities.  They believed themselves above the law. IMO, if a church breaks health rules, and a member dies of covid from a church service, the board of the church should be charged with manslaughter.

We have the anti-maskers holding rallies in our city the past few months, with mostly alt-right church members and politicians attending.  No-one in the community has any use for them.  We want to open businesses, not stay a Delta variant hot-spot.

(July 7, 2021 at 12:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The things that positively identify you as an alt right nut have nothing to do with whatever thing you might virtue signal over, but in your repeated insistence that the alt right...is right.

You don’t like the term, but you advocate for the ideology.  That’s what makes you what you are, what makes anyone what they are.

I advocate for the ideology that white people should not been seen as public enemy number 1. True. I'm not willing to fall on the sword and throw my whole race under the bus. I'm not willing to throw my beautiful, glorious white daughter under the bus, shit on a whole race of people, and then go burn down courthouses in my free time. I don't think it's very constructive. How about if we settle on calling me part alt-right, part liberal and part progressive? I'll go with that.

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(July 7, 2021 at 12:52 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:

(July 7, 2021 at 12:24 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I was told that Christians were being ridiculous to think they're rights were going to be taken away, but at least here in Canada, Christian preachers have been arrested after being assaulted by violent homosexual savages. Christians are being charged for holding outdoor church services and for holding outdoor rallies.

I think you are reading a bit too much alt-right news.

Preacher was being a jerk on the street, and was confronted by some angry people who blocked his path.  Neither were arrested, because no laws were broken.  I like how you call them "violent homosexual savages".  He even played the race-card (being black), insinuating that anyone who was against him was racist.

Street Preacher Alleges Assault

As for the second one, an alt-right church, declaring themselves above the law, decided to break health rules.  You may believe that the right to kill your members is the absolute right of a church, but the government disagrees.  That was after they were already charged for indoor services.  Were the outdoor services safe?  Perhaps if done right, but they did not work with health authorities.  They believed themselves above the law. IMO, if a church breaks health rules, and a member dies of covid from a church service, the board of the church should be charged with manslaughter.

We have the anti-maskers holding rallies in our city the past few months, with mostly alt-right church members and politicians attending.  No-one in the community has any use for them.  We want to open businesses, not stay a Delta variant hot-spot.

Why wouldn't I call them savages? They are. Am I supposed to take their side and give them a pass for their violence just because I'm also not heterosexual? Hell no. I'm not with identity politics like that.

When the BLM rallies were happening, health officials broke their own rules and joined them. When a Muslim family got run over, health officials broke their own rules once again for massive rallies. When Christians organize a protest though? Charged. Try to stay consistent here. The Christians and the anti-government rally organizers were clearly treated very differently.

The White Man isn’t public enemy no 1, nor is anyone asking you to fall on any swords or throw The White Man under any bus.

It is, however, that exact worldview which has caused the race obsessed to lash out by preemptively throwing our entire country under a bus over nothing more than fact free items of white grievance. The organizing propaganda of contemporary white supremacy.

That is -exactly- what identifies you as an alt right nut. Plenty of folks can take issue with BLM without launching themselves into some screed about the looming dangers of a great replacement. Not you, though...huh?

(July 7, 2021 at 12:56 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: When the BLM rallies were happening, health officials broke their own rules and joined them. When a Muslim family got run over, health officials broke their own rules once again for massive rallies. When Christians organize a protest though? Charged. Try to stay consistent here. The Christians and the anti-government rally organizers were clearly treated very differently.

The police have given more latitude to actual political protest than other actions.  Those "rallies" against masks in my city?  They were not charged.  Nearby golf course that tried to open early?  Charged.

Each side tries to depict itself as the victim, and there are always anecdotes that attempt to "prove" their point -- there is power in it.

Quote:When the BLM rallies were happening, health officials broke their own rules and joined them. When a Muslim family got run over, health officials broke their own rules once again for massive rallies. When Christians organize a protest though? Charged. Try to stay consistent here. The Christians and the anti-government rally organizers were clearly treated very differently.

Yup because the BLM and Muslim protests didn't increase covid cases. The Church nuts and Covid denialists have. So health officials bet correctly.

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So IA whole cases is whiny white grievance and Alt-right talking points and utter delusions .