(August 4, 2021 at 1:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: 1. It' s not a democracy.

Wrong

(August 4, 2021 at 1:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: 2. A bunch of yahoos wearing funny hats and sitting with their feet up on your idol' s desk is a piss poor excuse for an insurrection.....

The (lack of) mental capacity of a criminal does not make the crime any less.

sigh...

It was an insurrection in that the purpose of being in the building was to stop the ratification of the vote.

Doesn't really matter if that took the form of actually hurting people or causing people to be secreted away for their safety while propping your feet up on a desk that's not yours.

How many got hurt and what got damaged isn't the issue. The issue is the intent to stop the damn count.

(August 4, 2021 at 11:26 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 10:32 am)Ranjr Wrote: As someone from a place called Hope, I believe Hillary is far less a politician and leader than Bill.  She was a bad choice for nominee.  She wasn't even that good an attorney.  

I agree that hate radio grew from fear of Bill's success and became the propaganda machine that excreted Trump.

It isn’t so much that she was a bad choice, she was the only choice. After Biden decided not to run, who were they left with but Clinton? Sanders? Pete Buttigieg? NO ONE but Clinton had the remotest chance of beating anyone the Republicans fielded.

Be fair - she managed to turn what otherwise would have been a Trump landslide into a squeaker.

Boru

At the moment there isn't a single republitraitor politician who can win a free and fair election, hasn't been since 2000. In 2000 they had to steal Florida to win, in 2004 c. 2.5m votes, in 2008 & 2012 they lost despite stealing millions of votes, in 2016 they "won" mainly by stealing ten million plus votes (that's nearly ten percent of the eligible voting population right there), in 2020 they lost again despite doing exactly what they did in 2016 so next time round they're not even going to be subtle. If you don't turn a nice shade of pink in the slightest bit of sun (and even then if you're young or have ovaries but no husband you'll still be shat upon from a great height by Cruz) you're vote is going to be gone in any state where the party of treason holds any sway.

That's the state the US is in, and if the latest strategy doesn't work expect them to go full 1934 with a brownshirt standing behind every voter making sure they vote "correctly", under pain of, well, pain.

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(August 4, 2021 at 3:13 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 1:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: 1. It' s not a democracy.

Wrong

He's actually right on point one, the US is an oligarchical semi-monarchical republic. It is currently (in Roman constitutional terms) at the stage where Marius and Sulla are leaving the stage and Pompey, Crassus and Caesar are entering onto it.

(August 4, 2021 at 2:45 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 1:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Oh blow me you reactionary twat....

How " close did we get to losing our democracy"?

1. It' s not a democracy.
2. A bunch of yahoos wearing funny hats and sitting with their feet up on your idol' s desk is a piss poor excuse for an insurrection.....


It wasn' t even close. If you think that idiot lot was close to capable of overthrowing our government you probably piss yourself everytime somebody slams a door.

Insurrections would include tens of thousands dead and don' t finish up by day's end in time for happy hour back at the hotel....

Oh really ? Your characterization of the riot is 100 % dishonest. We get you *need* to downplay it. You failed. 
You really do know nothing at all about anything. 
General Milley, and a number of others, was quite concerned about what was going to happen. 
You seem to think you are so much more knowledgeable than Milley. 
What experience qualifies you to say anything here ? 
Are you so stupid you can't think this through ? 

What would have happened if they had gotten their hands on Pence and done something to him ? 
What would have happened if the mob had gotten the boxes with the Electoral votes and failed to deliver them ? 
You think all that happened was that some in funny hats sat in chairs ? What an ignorant fool. 

They failed to uphold their oaths to the Constitution. It had never once happened before. You cannot know what would have happened. 
The worst of all the ignorance, is that these people are so fucking stupid, they actually thought, and think, that they could reverse a legitimate election, and that the American people would sit still for that. Trump (the stupidest of men), still thinks all it will take is to have someone magically say something, and millions of Biden voters would just say "oh, ok, whatever". SOme like you, you seem to only be able to learn the hard way. As it was, the Republicans, (WITH NO EVIDENCE) failed to perform their role in the established order, and voted not to accept the result, for no good reason. 

You, of all people are not qualified to comment on whether we came close to losing our democracy.

Here they are, just sitting in Pelosi's chair. What a dolt.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/18/100821165...pitol-riot

Zark off...

They were idiots for pulling the shit - you are either an idiot for believing this country was really in any danger - or you are an opportunist deleriously happy to paint the other side as evil monsters that need destroying.....

It says something when a person so dedicated to being contrarian and assuming bad faith from everyone else. That an event that's been acknowledged as a threat by some Republicans and nonpartisan elements is deemed a partisan excuse to "paint people as monsters"

Look at these partisan hack police officers and Liz Cheney clearly a lifelong Democrat who's just here to villainize people 

(August 4, 2021 at 4:22 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 2:45 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Oh really ? Your characterization of the riot is 100 % dishonest. We get you *need* to downplay it. You failed. 
You really do know nothing at all about anything. 
General Milley, and a number of others, was quite concerned about what was going to happen. 
You seem to think you are so much more knowledgeable than Milley. 
What experience qualifies you to say anything here ? 
Are you so stupid you can't think this through ? 

What would have happened if they had gotten their hands on Pence and done something to him ? 
What would have happened if the mob had gotten the boxes with the Electoral votes and failed to deliver them ? 
You think all that happened was that some in funny hats sat in chairs ? What an ignorant fool. 

They failed to uphold their oaths to the Constitution. It had never once happened before. You cannot know what would have happened. 
The worst of all the ignorance, is that these people are so fucking stupid, they actually thought, and think, that they could reverse a legitimate election, and that the American people would sit still for that. Trump (the stupidest of men), still thinks all it will take is to have someone magically say something, and millions of Biden voters would just say "oh, ok, whatever". Some like you, you seem to only be able to learn the hard way. As it was, the Republicans, (WITH NO EVIDENCE) failed to perform their role in the established order, and voted not to accept the result, for no good reason. 

You, of all people are not qualified to comment on whether we came close to losing our democracy.

Here they are, just sitting in Pelosi's chair. What a dolt.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/18/100821165...pitol-riot

Zark off...

They were idiots for pulling the shit - you are either an idiot for believing this country was really in any danger - or you are an opportunist deleriously happy to paint the other side as evil monsters that need destroying.....

You answered none of the questions. 
I see you can't. 
You don't know more about the threats to the US than General Milley. 
The fact that you do think that, just proves how totally delusional you actually are.

(August 4, 2021 at 4:55 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 4:22 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Zark off...

They were idiots for pulling the shit - you are either an idiot for believing this country was really in any danger - or you are an opportunist deleriously happy to paint the other side as evil monsters that need destroying.....

You answered none of the questions. 
I see you can't. 
You don't know more about the threats to the US than General Milley. 
The fact that you do think that, just proves how totally delusional you actually are.

Because he can't. Because it doesn't fit the narrative that this is a partisan ploy. Just like he can't answer why someone like Liz Cheney a lifelong Republican agrees that this was a threat? Why officers who were actually there would lie about the severity of the attack? Because that narrative doesn't make any sense but some will insist upon it anyway.

I think OLB may be a bot. He certainly doesn't comment like a thinking human. Actually he sounds a lot like Trump.

(August 4, 2021 at 8:10 pm)Spongebob Wrote: I think OLB may be a bot.  He certainly doesn't comment like a thinking human.  Actually he sounds a lot like Trump.

I disagree. He may think differently from you, but that certainly doesn't define "bot". A lot of people look at his words through their whatever-colored glasses and don't actually weigh what he says. I don't always agree with what he says, either. But it's amazing how many people will squirrel him down their particular political hate-hole of choice, and vilify him for their interpretation of what he says.

(August 4, 2021 at 8:52 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(August 4, 2021 at 8:10 pm)Spongebob Wrote: I think OLB may be a bot.  He certainly doesn't comment like a thinking human.  Actually he sounds a lot like Trump.

I disagree. He may think differently from you, but that certainly doesn't define "bot". A lot of people look at his words through their whatever-colored glasses and don't actually weigh what he says. I don't always agree with what he says, either. But it's amazing how many people will squirrel him down their particular political hate-hole of choice, and vilify him for their interpretation of what he says.

Not sure what you would call the group that have decided to comment with vitriol on every OLB post...whatever the opposite of groupies is, I suppose.

He makes a post and I start counting down till the usual suspects lose their minds.