(September 8, 2021 at 5:31 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Doesn’t matter what additional ad hoc qualifier you dream up that appears to you to make your as hoc bullshit god harder to disprove.   Disproval was totally unneeded to dismiss your god before you dreamt up the qualifier, it is just as totally unneeded afterwards.     

Without your qualifier, Your god can be trivially dismissed as something that could not possibly be more bullshitty.   it can still be dismissed with the exact same level of certainty as being of exactly that same sublime level of bullshittiness with the additions of your qualifier.

Read what I wrote more carefully, dear bullshitter. A universe requires a cause, it can't just pop out of nothing. That's why the concept of God is necessary, it's because we care about rationality -unlike you, you think I am arbitrarily adding qualifiers to God to make it escape falsification. Well, no, you got it backwards: our position is that a deity is a necessary condition to existence, it's not an optional add-on. No god means no existence. No entity with sufficient qualifiers means no Anomalocaris.

(September 8, 2021 at 5:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(September 8, 2021 at 9:31 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Why do you think that if some disembodied entity or construct x is unfalsifiable, then x is useless??

Because you have no way of demonstrating that it’s true. 

Quote:If we were to play this game, I can say that all true propositions are unfalsifiable.

You can say that, but you’d be wrong, lol. 

I see you're cherry picking what you answer to. I said that something like there being infinitely many prime numbers isn't subjected to falsification by experiments, we reach its truth by logical arguments, and it is evidently true. This means that there is category of concepts and true propositions to which we can't apply the criterion of falsifiability. And there, your entire objection goes out of the window.

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(September 8, 2021 at 5:35 pm)Helios Wrote: Theology is an attempt to use made-up superpowers to explain away things

Nonsense, theology is a personal explanation of things. It goes hand to hand with scientific explanations.

Theology most certainly does not correlate to scientific explanations in any way. Science involves observation, predictions and testing. Theology has none of those characteristics. It is nothing but the study of religion, albeit from an intellectual perspective, but certainly not from testable hypotheses.

Quote:Nonsense, theology is a personal explanation of things. It goes hand to hand with scientific explanations.

Bullshit. It's all make-believe excuse-making to preserve fairy tales and nothing more. It has all the explanatory power of  the ravings of a lunatic on LSD

So spare me deluded babble 

(September 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: A universe requires a cause, it can't just pop out of nothing.

Would you please define, as you understand it, the words "universe" and "nothing"?

(September 7, 2021 at 7:56 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(September 7, 2021 at 7:46 pm)brewer Wrote: Show me concrete evidence for god

Category mistake: asking for concrete/empirical evidence for the existence of a non-empirical being.

Your request is logically invalid

You dare take others to task about logic when you know fuck-all about it?!?

Why do you think Klor stinks of desperation? He repeatedly goes on and on and on in very poor attempts to get someone to believe in his god.

I can only conclude that he's got some serious personal doubts regarding his belief(s) and this behavior is some strange way of rectifying his angst.

Either that or he's on a mission from god and failure is not an option.

(September 8, 2021 at 7:47 pm)brewer Wrote: Why do you think Klor stinks of desperation? He repeatedly goes on and on and on in very poor attempts to get someone to believe in his god.

I can only conclude that he's got some serious personal doubts regarding his belief(s) and this behavior is some strange way of rectifying his angst.

Either that or he's on a mission from god and failure is not an option.

Yup, desperate but how else do you remain a theist except through desperation? It's sure doesn't come through evidence.

(September 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Nonsense, theology is a personal explanation of things. It goes hand to hand with scientific explanations.

Don't be ridiculous.

Then why can Muslim, Christians, Jewish, Hindu scientists all do the same scientific experiment, and get the same results.

But ask them their explanation of things within their theology, and you will get drastically different answers.

Science is: repeatable, verifiable, testable, and creates predictions. Theology fails at every step.

Human beings have to be special, I mean why else would they exist? Surely, not because of some nonsense about the species evolving into its strengths to ensure its survival. That........ would........ be............ preposterous!

(September 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: That's why the concept of God is necessary, it's because we care about rationality -unlike you, you think I am arbitrarily adding qualifiers to God to make it escape falsification.

Incorrect. If you were being rational, and intellectually honest, you would employ the I don't know answer in reference to the god concept.