(October 16, 2021 at 9:04 am)arewethereyet Wrote: It's interesting that the violent parents go ballistic when someone else is violent with their child.  It was confusing to me growing up.  It was okay for dad to beat me bloody but if anyone else laid a hand on me they would have hell to pay.  I was there as his punching bag and I suppose he didn't want to share.

It has to do with feelings.
1. Either the parent feels like he is being told that he does not know how to educate/beat up his child.
This has to do with pride. The man does not like being told what to do.

2. Either the parent feels like protecting you from an attacker.
3. Maybe it is about satisfaction. He wants to get satisfied by beating up the child and only him. if another guy beats up the child, it leads to impurity.

Preacher: if the government executed gays, I wouldn't have to condemn their sins.

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Woman covered herself in shit to glorify God

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(October 28, 2021 at 4:22 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Woman covered herself in shit to glorify God


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Maybe she is one of those people who is turned on with the idea of playing with feces, eating feces, smelling feces.


It depends on how the brain is wired.
We know for a fact that most human's brains function more or less in the same way. There are variations.
For example, when a comedian tells a joke, perhaps 90% of the audience will laugh. Some people laugh harder or laugh longer than others.
This sort of thing gives us clues that our brains are similar.

I don't know if you have ever had a cat. Let your cat smell an orange or lemon and you'll see that they tend to hate it. They quickly turn away their head and walk away.

So, I imagine that it is possible to have a human who's brain happens to be wired a little differently and he/she likes the smell or taste of feces.
For example, rabbits eat their own poop.
For example, cats lick their own butthole and they clean it that way.

Why is it that these mongers of hatred, animosity, and sheer ignorance, who profess the sanctity of a business's right to decide if they want to serve you or not, are the same who now say banning trump is discriminatory, prejudicial, and thoroughly unamerican?

(September 3, 2021 at 7:51 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I recently got into a debate with a theist on YouTube and was told, for the umpteenth time, that I'm going to Hell. I replied by saying that theists' puerile threats do not impress me. My opponent has abandoned the debate. 

I just tell them
1. Stop living in fear.

then, they respond with
2. I am not living in fear.

Me:
3. Yes, you are living in fear. You are afraid of Hell. You just mentioned to the other guy (or me) that you will go to Hell if you don’t believe in Jesus.
You have read the Bible. I have read the same book. We both read the descriptions about Hell.

Theist:
4. No, I am not afraid of hell. I believe in Jesus and he will protect me.

Me:
5. I know that Jesus acts as a protector. He protects you from hell and so he reduces your fear level. That is what Jesus is for. Jesus is like insurance. I have home insurance. It reduces my fear.
If you aren’t afraid of hell, then you can continue to believe in Jesus and ask him to send you to hell.

6. The conversation can take different pathways at this point.

If someone mentions that hell is a separation from the jewish god and you, nope, they are afraid to spell out exactly what hell is. Give him the lines from the Bible that explain hell.

Note: It is incredible the number of christians who do not recognize fear. Some of them don’t even know that they are in a religion. They call it “a relationship with Jesus”.

(October 28, 2021 at 10:00 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote:

(September 3, 2021 at 7:51 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I recently got into a debate with a theist on YouTube and was told, for the umpteenth time, that I'm going to Hell. I replied by saying that theists' puerile threats do not impress me. My opponent has abandoned the debate. 

I just tell them
1. Stop living in fear.

then, they respond with
2. I am not living in fear.

Me:
3. Yes, you are living in fear. You are afraid of Hell. You just mentioned to the other guy (or me) that you will go to Hell if you don’t believe in Jesus.
You have read the Bible. I have read the same book. We both read the descriptions about Hell.

Theist:
4. No, I am not afraid of hell. I believe in Jesus and he will protect me.

Me:
5. I know that Jesus acts as a protector. He protects you from hell and so he reduces your fear level. That is what Jesus is for. Jesus is like insurance. I have home insurance. It reduces my fear.
If you aren’t afraid of hell, then you can continue to believe in Jesus and ask him to send you to hell.

6. The conversation can take different pathways at this point.

If someone mentions that hell is a separation from the jewish god and you, nope, they are afraid to spell out exactly what hell is. Give him the lines from the Bible that explain hell.

Note: It is incredible the number of christians who do not recognize fear. Some of them don’t even know that they are in a religion. They call it “a relationship with Jesus”.

Your argument of "living in fear" is very thought provoking for me. Following on from your argument - Imagine the absolute terror that a scientific conversation about evolution, cosmic scale, age of the universe, or even just logic must introduce. I mean if that person was to be genuinely open to challenging their frame of reference and if some of that logic sticks and raises doubts in the believer? Then the insurance policy is voided and we all know the consequences. The ridiculous thing is that they fail to understand that as soon as they might stop believing in a God, their constant fear of judgement and will also be gone. 

I believe that a large proportion of Christians live in a grey zone of belief. They want to (and partially do) believe because that is the socially acceptable thing to do in their community. They can't however quite commit to that belief in their heart of hearts because they have a working brain and all the evidence points the other way. But because that places them in an impossible situation, the easiest thing is to become even more defensive.

(October 28, 2021 at 4:22 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Woman covered herself in shit to glorify God

This is exactly god told his peeps not to poop in the camp site.

"(Dead relative) is up in heaven, watching over you, waiting for you to join them."

I know what this is trying to say, trying to impart some uplifting, hopeful message. But it struck me today when I saw someone say something along these lines that it's actually really chilling. Like, sometimes, I'm like, okay, Christianity is trying really hard to give this "you're not alone" "death is not the end" intention. Other times, it feels almost like a wed to death religion, where death is glorified, death is aspirational, the end of everything is triumph in itself. And it's very creepy and malevolent. But I include it here in the stupid things because I think they're mostly ignorant of how their wish for the deaths of everyone could be interpreted as an evil thing.

I would hope that IF my dead relatives were conscious and aware somewhere in a parallel existence that 1. We might have more to do/more going on than simply watching the still living, rather than being obsessed with and consumed by the previous state of existence. And 2. I would hope that they wouldn't be eagerly waiting for me to die just so we could be together again. With the implications of point number 1, it would be like, "hurry up and get here so we can watch everyone still going at it and eagerly wish for them to join us too." Maybe that's another one of those "Christianity is actually a demon-worshipping religion masquerading as righteous in order to ensnare souls into a captive existence" where they let you know the truth with the unspoken logical conclusions. Because I think if watching the living is all that's going on in that afterlife, I could believe them getting twisted by a toxic madness and jealousy, hoping and hungering for their ungrateful loved ones to meet their ends as well.

(November 17, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Ten Wrote: "(Dead relative) is up in heaven, watching over you, waiting for you to join them."

I know what this is trying to say, trying to impart some uplifting, hopeful message. But it struck me today when I saw someone say something along these lines that it's actually really chilling. Like, sometimes, I'm like, okay, Christianity is trying really hard to give this "you're not alone" "death is not the end" intention. Other times, it feels almost like a wed to death religion, where death is glorified, death is aspirational, the end of everything is triumph in itself. And it's very creepy and malevolent. But I include it here in the stupid things because I think they're mostly ignorant of how their wish for the deaths of everyone could be interpreted as an evil thing.

I would hope that IF my dead relatives were conscious and aware somewhere in a parallel existence that 1. We might have more to do/more going on than simply watching the still living, rather than being obsessed with and consumed by the previous state of existence. And 2. I would hope that they wouldn't be eagerly waiting for me to die just so we could be together again. With the implications of point number 1, it would be like, "hurry up and get here so we can watch everyone still going at it and eagerly wish for them to join us too." Maybe that's another one of those "Christianity is actually a demon-worshipping religion masquerading as righteous in order to ensnare souls into a captive existence" where they let you know the truth with the unspoken logical conclusions. Because I think if watching the living is all that's going on in that afterlife, I could believe them getting twisted by a toxic madness and jealousy, hoping and hungering for their ungrateful loved ones to meet their ends as well.

Also, as far as Christians go, this is not in line with what the Bible says. The idea that a disembodied soul goes somewhere is borrowed from the Greeks. As far as Christian mythology goes, on the last day every person will be resurrected (a bodily resurrection). Then they'll go to God for judgment. God will either cast them into the fire or grant them eternal life. So, according to Christianity, nobody is watching over anybody from Heaven.