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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
compared to china, russia is not really a super power. China’s GDP is 10 times larger. although russia still holds the edge in a few field of military technology, chinese military industrial complex holds vastly greater in many more fields, especially after may of the former soviet military industrial complexes ended up in independent republics and then were allowed to decay.

there is no doubt russia would be a junior partner to china, the real superpower, but russia would be an exceptionally valuable partner without which china probably can’t ever compete directly with the US due to china’s geographic disadvantage.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
If you’re an American living in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada or Utah and think Putin was right to invade Ukraine because it used to be part of the USSR, Mexico would like a word.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Russian is just taking Ukraine back...is Alaska next?

Now to wait for the dissertation from the smartest guy on the forum.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 5:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you’re an American living in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada or Utah and think Putin was right to invade Ukraine because it used to be part of the USSR, Mexico would like a word.

Boru

if mexico’s popukation is 4 times larger, GDP is 10 times larger, and it has the world’s largest nuclear arsenal and the US none, and the US made noises about join a alliance with china and threaten to put chinese nuclear weapons just north of the rio grande, 

then I think mexico would like more than a world and it would be very, very unwise to talk back.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 4:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(February 26, 2022 at 4:01 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Not taking a decision is in itself a very big decision; eg: seeing your brother raping and killing people but decide not to take any measures.

The U.S is morally bankrupt because time after time it chose to remain silent.

It's very ironic to see the White House giving us a headache about a matter, but swallows its tongue in the face of another matter.

And yes. The Ukraine was a part of Russia TBH. It even had the infamous Soviet Chernobyl nuclear reactor.

The bigger problem is that Putin is not a nice man; we saw what he does to people in Syria.
What depresses me is that we Muslims are left with either the European+American choice or Gog & Magog (Russia + China) choice.

Turkey is caught between the jaws of these bloodthirsty beasts; so as poor Ukrainian civilians.

But we tasted the darkness of both superpowers in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Please be quiet. Grownups are talking.

Boru

Try to reply instead of personalising matters. The west is in deep moral shit, and the world is changing for good. The invasion of Ukraine did show the true face of the west. You have no allies. Nobody will trust it ever again.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 6:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(February 26, 2022 at 4:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Please be quiet. Grownups are talking.

Boru

Try to reply instead of personalising matters. The west is in deep moral shit, and the world is changing for good. The invasion of Ukraine did show the true face of the west. You have no allies. Nobody will trust it ever again.

Russia is not part of the west.  Please do keep up.

For that matter, neither is Ukraine.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 6:12 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(February 26, 2022 at 6:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Try to reply instead of personalising matters. The west is in deep moral shit, and the world is changing for good. The invasion of Ukraine did show the true face of the west. You have no allies. Nobody will trust it ever again.

Russia is not part of the west.  Please do keep up.

For that matter, neither is Ukraine.

When maps are defined by victors, any place can belong anywhere.
Can you believe that the Island called "America" is a part of the European Nato?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 6:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The west is in deep moral shit
...says the certified rape apologist Hilarious
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 6:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(February 26, 2022 at 6:12 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Russia is not part of the west.  Please do keep up.

For that matter, neither is Ukraine.

When maps are defined by victors, any place can belong anywhere.
Can you believe that the Island called "America" is a part of the European Nato?

Which countries are called Western countries?
  • The United States and Canada
  • The European Union plus the United Kingdom, Norway, Iceland and Switzerland
  • Australia and New Zealand
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 26, 2022 at 6:18 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(February 26, 2022 at 6:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote: When maps are defined by victors, any place can belong anywhere.
Can you believe that the Island called "America" is a part of the European Nato?

Which countries are called Western countries?
  • The United States and Canada
  • The European Union plus the United Kingdom, Norway, Iceland and Switzerland
  • Australia and New Zealand

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-United-...rn-country


Quote:USA and Canada and Australia and New Zealand are all considered western nations and part of the Anglo world with U.K. Because of their cluture, policy, politics, belief, system, and ways of life.

TBH you are invaders, and since you conquered the land you wrote your name on it.

Putin wants to do the same to Europe, and call the new empire "USSR"
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