(March 31, 2022 at 1:50 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(March 31, 2022 at 12:12 pm)brewer Wrote: Why didn't they include the indigenous native americans? Fuckin racists.

Because they received compensation. The Alaska natives received billions of dollars, 44 million acres of land, free health care and college tuition.

Since when are Alaska natives California natives?

(March 31, 2022 at 2:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(March 31, 2022 at 12:51 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: For the record, I hope this is going To involve social programs that help put black people on an economic even keel with white people. 

It won't, and the committee have explicitly stated as much.

So, no real actions being taken to create a lasting remedy to counteract the lasting effects of slavery. Always a good sign that they're not going to do fulfill the job they were specifically convened to accomplish.

Narrow eligibility criteria, and whatever paltry amount they might agree to is going to be sucked into the black hole of the status quo. They know (and have stated) that whatever they do is going to be insufficient and shouldn't be taken to be an alternative or substitute to federal action...but..if they have an ounce of sense, they know it will be.

(March 31, 2022 at 3:34 pm)brewer Wrote:

(March 31, 2022 at 1:50 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Because they received compensation. The Alaska natives received billions of dollars, 44 million acres of land, free health care and college tuition.

Since when are Alaska natives California natives?

the point is, native Americans have been compensated at the federal level, while descendants of slaves haven't been compensated at all, California's actions are setting a precedent for the federal government to act upon.

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(March 31, 2022 at 2:21 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(March 31, 2022 at 1:50 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Are these same white people opposing the money that went to Afghan and current Ukrainian refugees?

I mean... Americans opposing foreign aid based on the idea that the money could be better spent on helping Americans is not new and is still the case with these issues.

But Ukrainians are white, so it's more acceptable to help them than all the brown refugees we've created over the last 20+ years.

The difference is, with reparations, black people are told it isn't feasible or there needs to be a "study" on how it can be accomplished, meanwhile other groups who aren't even citizens, simply just get a check cut, regardless of any "opposition".

I'm sure you'd settle for a reservation and subsistence living.

Oh, look, another thread about race from Huggy. The only topic he can talk about.

(March 31, 2022 at 9:56 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: The difference is, with reparations, black people are told it isn't feasible or there needs to be a "study" on how it can be accomplished, meanwhile other groups who aren't even citizens, simply just get a check cut, regardless of any "opposition".

Fuck those hyper fecund invaders with calves the size of canteloups, amiright?  I think it's interesting that, on the one hand, you realize that this country as an institution has absolutely no interest in reperations...but, otoh, think that we're simultaneously a welcoming and generous bunch to immigrants.  Just over here cuttin checks left right and center.

Yes, how dare we help people from poor countries now countries I might add America has done a great deal; to make poor. We should be focused on giving the like what 9th generation descendants of slaves checks. Which will simply be a bandaid and have few long-term benefits.

I have a suggestion. Instead of cash payments or the like, reparations could take the form of indentured servitude. Every Black American who can establish that they are the descendant of an enslaved person would be paired with a White American who can be determined to be descended from a slave owner or slave trader or a lawmaker (at any level) who fought against emancipation - in short, anyone who supported or directly benefited from slavery.

For a period of time to be determined (I'm thinking two years), the White person would be required to work for the Black person - clean their house, tend their garden, raise their children - for no pay beyond room and board. The Black person would be able to punish the White person for not performing these duties satisfactorily. The form and frequency of the punishment would be solely at the discretion of Black person. During the period in question, the White person would not be able to vote, attend school, marry without permission, and could be assigned to another Black person on a whim. White families would not necessarily be paired with Black families as a group.

Maybe two years of indentured servitude would shut up some of these waterheads who keep claiming that slavery 'wasn't that bad'.

Boru