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California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
(April 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(April 2, 2022 at 12:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And I was talking specifically about your statement ‘So you ain’t getting a motherfucking nickel out of me.’ If it’s paid for out of general taxation, they ARE getting a motherfucking nickel out of you, whether you like it or not.

But Nudger brings up an interesting point. Let’s say the sale of federal lands was adopted as a means to fund reparations. Would you purchase 1000 acres of land for $100 if you knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the money you paid was to be used to pay reparations to the descendants of enslaved Americans?

Boru

Awful selective of your choice of victims..


I' m sure there' s some red skinned chaps that feel you'd be selling off THEIR land......


Have fun.


Dead Horse

I notice how you neatly sidestepped my question.

You said earlier that you consider yourself exempt from the whole reparations issues because your ancestors outlawed slavery. This thread is almost entirely about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people.

If you’ll answer my question - either way - I’ll donate $10 000 to the Lithuanian charity of your choice.

Boru
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
(April 2, 2022 at 4:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: For the record, it’s not like you can pick and choose where the money you spend goes. If that were the case, I’d have done everything legally within my power to defund our bloated military and it’s perpetual wars. It all goes into a general pool of tax revenue, and it’s one that every citizen above a certain income level has to put in. So, if reparation efforts end up being paid for by taxes, it’s coming from taxpayers of all ethnicities, whether they’re white descendants of slaveholders, white people who weren’t descended from slaveholders, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, and even black people. Once the money’s in the revenue pool, it doesn’t matter who each individual dollar came from; it belongs to the IRS  now and they will spend it however they see fit. That’s how taxation works.

(April 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Awful selective of your choice of victims..


I' m sure there' s some red skinned chaps that feel you'd be selling off THEIR land......


Have fun.


Dead Horse

I don’t think Khem was talking about selling off the reservations, dude. Yes, I know that the many Native American tribes used to lay claim to most every square foot of the US (and I found out recently from native-land.ca that where I live has been claimed by Six different tribes as having once been theirs) but I think that by this point they’ve come to terms with the fact that they’re never getting the bulk of it back. It’s worth noting that even the Land Back movement, for all its talk of getting back everything stolen from the indigenous people, tends in practice to concentrate more on getting smaller individual parcels of land than just trying to get everything.
Yeah we know we're never getting the whole thing back. Nor should we

(April 2, 2022 at 5:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Awful selective of your choice of victims..


I' m sure there' s some red skinned chaps that feel you'd be selling off THEIR land......


Have fun.


Dead Horse

I notice how you neatly sidestepped my question.

You said earlier that you consider yourself exempt from the whole reparations issues because your ancestors outlawed slavery. This thread is almost entirely about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people.

If you’ll answer my question - either way - I’ll donate $10 000 to the Lithuanian charity of your choice.

Boru
How someone who lives in the US can regard themselves as exempt is odd
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
And if a pacifist can't be exempt from paying taxes to support the military, I don't see how your ancestors not doing slavery would make your tax dollars exempt from paying for reparations. Every penny you pay in taxes can be used for whatever the fuck the government decides they want to use it for and your preferences are irrelevant to that fact. After all, it's their money now, not yours.
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
(April 2, 2022 at 5:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Awful selective of your choice of victims..


I' m sure there' s some red skinned chaps that feel you'd be selling off THEIR land......


Have fun.


Dead Horse

I notice how you neatly sidestepped my question.

You said earlier that you consider yourself exempt from the whole reparations issues because your ancestors outlawed slavery. This thread is almost entirely about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people.

If you’ll answer my question - either way - I’ll donate $10 000 to the Lithuanian charity of your choice.

Boru

You bet I will take that deal - provided it' ll shut everyone up.

Do the math to your silly scenario --- 

I will get 1000 acres at 10 cents per acre - and if we sell ALL the federal land - each and every black person in the US will get less than 2 bucks each.....

....
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
(April 2, 2022 at 5:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Awful selective of your choice of victims..


I' m sure there' s some red skinned chaps that feel you'd be selling off THEIR land......


Have fun.


Dead Horse

I notice how you neatly sidestepped my question.

You said earlier that you consider yourself exempt from the whole reparations issues because your ancestors outlawed slavery. This thread is almost entirely about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people.

If you’ll answer my question - either way - I’ll donate $10 000 to the Lithuanian charity of your choice.

Boru
And his response is dumb.Looks like you get to keep your money  Great
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
(April 3, 2022 at 6:27 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(April 2, 2022 at 5:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I notice how you neatly sidestepped my question.

You said earlier that you consider yourself exempt from the whole reparations issues because your ancestors outlawed slavery. This thread is almost entirely about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people.

If you’ll answer my question - either way - I’ll donate $10 000 to the Lithuanian charity of your choice.

Boru

You bet I will take that deal - provided it' ll shut everyone up.

Do the math to your silly scenario --- 

I will get 1000 acres at 10 cents per acre - and if we sell ALL the federal land - each and every black person in the US will get less than 2 bucks each.....

....
My favorite Lithuanian charity is me.


I take Paypal....

Nyet! You must accept payment in rouble!
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RE: California about to be the first state to administer reparations!s
I had a couple of rubles years ago....

Crappy quality stamping of piss poor stainless steel. I got them from a crewman on a Russian ship we did a port boarding on in Anchorage. I really messed with his head when I gave him a silver half dollar....

He was impressed as hell - he could tell it was actually silver... He probably told everyone back home that all our change was real silver...
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