(May 4, 2022 at 8:18 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(May 4, 2022 at 4:45 pm)Alan V Wrote: That's called loaded terminology, which is most often used in thought-control systems.

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."

Plato.

Danu, 

Either this is a deliberate non sequitur or you haven't noticed that I have stopped posting in Atheist Discussion much at all recently.

And this kind of response is why.  It's like talking with deaf people half the time.

(May 5, 2022 at 6:25 am)Alan V Wrote:

(May 4, 2022 at 8:18 pm)Angrboda Wrote: "Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something."

Plato.

Danu, 

Either this is a deliberate non sequitur or you haven't noticed that I have stopped posting in Atheist Discussion much at all recently.

And this kind of response is why.  It's like talking with deaf people half the time.

I could say the same about your response. It was a one-liner that doesn't appear to say anything. If you have a problem with this type of behavior, stop engaging in it yourself.

If you have something of substance to say, on the other hand, I'm all ears.

(May 4, 2022 at 1:48 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I mean, I know I've said some pretty harsh things about God (in real life), but perhaps God is above all forms of criticism? And acts like the one truly objectively good thing in a person's life, despite what that person might think or say about God?

God could be truly objectively good if it were omnibenevolent but not all-knowing and all-powerful. A perfectly good being doing the best it can in a universe it never had the power to perfect.

You don't even have to be perfectly good to be objectively good. Most people, are objectively good. I've never understood why this is supposed to be some super important god-making attribute.

(May 5, 2022 at 12:56 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You don't even have to be perfectly good to be objectively good.  Most people, are objectively good.  I've never understood why this is supposed to be some super important god-making attribute.

Because you're an atheist? That's why you don't understand it. And most people are objectively bad. You don't understand people very well.

Atheism isn't a moral position on anything nutball. Just means I don't believe in gods. Being objectively good makes you..wait for it..objectively good. Not a god. Not that you'd have experience, obviously.

Maybe you suck? I can see why you'd conclude that everyone else sucked since your god is the suck-maker. It doesn't make a lick of sense, but it doesn't surprise me when people who suck and worship the suck think things suck. I think it's interesting that we've reached the point where some god-bothering dolt thought he might be able to take someone else to task...for having positive ideations about people. Fucking ghoul. Your comments above, are why I consider beliefs like yours a social disease. There are, apparently, people in the world who can't possibly imagine that failing to curbstomp the neighbors children isn't exactly a high bar..and then..for flavor..their gods commonly come in under it.

Like yours. Explicitly, according to you.

(May 5, 2022 at 1:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Atheism isn't a moral position on anything nutball.  Just means I don't believe in gods.  Being objectively good makes you..wait for it..objectively good.  Not a god.  Not that you'd have experience, obviously.  

Maybe you suck?  I can see why you'd conclude that everyone else sucked since your god is the suck-maker.  It doesn't make a lick of sense, but it doesn't surprise me when people who suck and worship the suck think things suck.  I think it's interesting that we've reached the point where some god-bothering dolt thought he might be able to take someone else to task...for having positive ideations about people.  Fucking ghoul.  Your comments above, are why I consider beliefs like yours a social disease.  There are, apparently, people in the world who can't possibly imagine that failing to curbstomp the neighbors children isn't exactly a high bar..and then..for flavor..their gods commonly come in under it.  

Like yours.  Explicitly, according to you.

Yeah well you know what, society deserves to be diseased. The current state of society is too clean and sterile and healthy. People have a moral duty to be as irresponsible as they can get away with.

See, there you go again. The man who worships the suck-maker thinks, maybe, we all deserve to be afflicted.

Speak for yourself degenerate.

(May 5, 2022 at 9:40 am)Angrboda Wrote: I could say the same about your response.

You are correct that I am not frustrated with you in particular but with people in general. I see over-generalizing as another variety of lying to oneself and others, so certain specific points can't be communicated.

Since this is a general human problem, I won't escape it by switching forums. So I need to take a break.

Does that dissatisfaction extend to yourself, or are you sure it's other people doing it? Food for thought.