(June 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Nope, I respect service members and vets, but there's a reason gay people overwhelmingly think this is a joke. Firstly, the tweet was put out by war criminals, not by gay service members, so let's get that out of the way first.

No one said gay service members can't have their own little symbol or whatever, or the pagans, or Satanists or whoever. They can have their own little thing. That's not what any gay person is outraged by right now. These US government bullets should be taken seriously, based on the gravity of the damage they have caused. They've killed hundreds of thousands since 9/11. Some say it's a million plus. This is not to be taken lightly, taking the government bullets that are used to unjustly kill brown people and spray painting them with a symbol that was created to stand for the exact opposite of the military industrial complex. I'm 100 % in support of the 2nd Amendment, but military bullets represent the MIC and the killing they've done and are continuing to do to brown people.

You bring up the police in Pride parades. Actually, a whole bunch of pride parades have kicked out the police from participating. And if you're seriously going to sit here and try to pretend that you wouldn't be offended in the least if Brianna Taylor was gunned down with a gay pride bullet out of a police gun, then I just don't believe you. You're only making a fuss here because it's me, and because you refuse to side with me on anything.

Which is it?  The USMC are a group you respect or are they war ciminals?

Pick a lane for a change.

I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

(June 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Nope, I respect service members and vets, but there's a reason gay people overwhelmingly think this is a joke. Firstly, the tweet was put out by war criminals, not by gay service members, so let's get that out of the way first.

No one said gay service members can't have their own little symbol or whatever, or the pagans, or Satanists or whoever. They can have their own little thing. That's not what any gay person is outraged by right now. These US government bullets should be taken seriously, based on the gravity of the damage they have caused. They've killed hundreds of thousands since 9/11. Some say it's a million plus. This is not to be taken lightly, taking the government bullets that are used to unjustly kill brown people and spray painting them with a symbol that was created to stand for the exact opposite of the military industrial complex. I'm 100 % in support of the 2nd Amendment, but military bullets represent the MIC and the killing they've done and are continuing to do to brown people.

You bring up the police in Pride parades. Actually, a whole bunch of pride parades have kicked out the police from participating. And if you're seriously going to sit here and try to pretend that you wouldn't be offended in the least if Brianna Taylor was gunned down with a gay pride bullet out of a police gun, then I just don't believe you. You're only making a fuss here because it's me, and because you refuse to side with me on anything.

Which is it?  The USMC are a group you respect or are they war ciminals?

Pick a lane for a change.

To be fair there are war criminals in the US military. But it's absurd to call the whole thing a group of war criminals or to say anything they put out is the product of war criminals.

Quote:I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

There is that reductionism again mixed with a composition fallacy

(June 5, 2022 at 7:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Which is it?  The USMC are a group you respect or are they war ciminals?

Pick a lane for a change.

I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

I see your tap dancing lessons are paying off.

(June 5, 2022 at 7:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Which is it?  The USMC are a group you respect or are they war ciminals?

Pick a lane for a change.

I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

If the US military messaged that they were proud to have Latino/Black/Native Americans/Pacific Islanders in their ranks, would such messaging strike you as ‘pretty gross’?

Boru

(June 5, 2022 at 9:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 7:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

If the US military messaged that they were proud to have Latino/Black/Native Americans/Pacific Islanders in their ranks, would such messaging strike you as ‘pretty gross’?

Boru

His whining is mainly about the bullets as if bullets are inherently bad if used by the military. So I would imagine he would cry salty tears if some color pallets used by any of those groups were put on bullets we would hear the same amount of sulking.

(June 5, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  These US government bullets should be taken seriously, based on the gravity of the damage they have caused. They've killed hundreds of thousands since 9/11. Some say it's a million plus. 

Sounds like an undercount to me, and why start at 9/11 - american bullets were killing people long before that.  As it turns out, though, some number of those bullets were fired by gay servicemembers.  I've met some pretty high speed gay infantry - and would you believe it, they're no more or less bothered by the fact that american rounds kill than a straight infantryman would be.  It's a source of pride, something we all truly bond over...actually.

I suppose it's more than a little bit theatrical, really. It's not so much hooah hooah rushing pillboxes anymore as it is peacekeeping and infrastructure projects. As a groundpounder, there's no rational expectation that you'll match a pilots enemy kia. More than anything, that transition from a culture of warlike heroism to by-the-numbers professionalism helped move the military along the path to the kind of acceptance you might find in a white collar environment. It's not about the manly man kicking ass and taking names anymore, and all the shit that went with that.

(June 6, 2022 at 3:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  These US government bullets should be taken seriously, based on the gravity of the damage they have caused. They've killed hundreds of thousands since 9/11. Some say it's a million plus. 

Sounds like an undercount to me, and why start at 9/11 - american bullets were killing people long before that.  As it turns out, though, some number of those bullets were fired by gay servicemembers.  I've met some pretty high speed gay infantry - and would you believe it, they're no more or less bothered by the fact that american rounds kill than a straight infantryman would be.  It's a source of pride, something we all truly bond over...actually.

I suppose it's more than a little bit theater anymore, really.  It's not so much hooah hooah rushing pillboxes anymore as it is peacekeeping and infrastructure projects.  As a groundpounder, there's no rational expectation that you'll match a pilots enemy kia.

I’m pretty confident that current and past LGBT marines are perfectly ok with the messaging.

Boru

Gay sausages in stores celebrating the gay month

(June 5, 2022 at 9:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 5, 2022 at 7:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I respect individual people who obey commands and do their job. The military as a whole is a tool of the MIC, which has unjustly killed hundreds of thousands of brown people.

If the US military messaged that they were proud to have Latino/Black/Native Americans/Pacific Islanders in their ranks, would such messaging strike you as ‘pretty gross’?

Boru

I'm a queer man. I take no offense to pride flags lol. I promise I don't hate the pride flag. Just look this up on twitter, and you will see that 99 percent of people think this is insanely gross. Like one twitter user I saw pointed out (I can't find the tweet anymore), the military should be sending out messages of reconciliation and apology for their extreme homophobia over the years. This is what gay people want to hear, and it would mean a lot more than cringey virtue signalling by wrapping weapons of war in the pride flag. Get some cool little rainbow flag dog tags or something. Not flipping bullets.

https://twitter.com/Hanari502/status/153...0464644096
How incredibly tone deaf to have the bullets be the pride flag after a major school shooting.

https://twitter.com/anthonyessaye/status/1532644267428139009
Love wins, but representing the pride flag on bullets? The message is a bit mixed.

https://twitter.com/Wagnerian
Because the LGBT liberation movement is not about holding up Imperialism. I don’t believe that you can’t see how turning the Pride flag into US military bullets a wild misappropriation & utterly absurd.

https://twitter.com/kwijibo418/status/1532043951200509955
One week after Uvalde and you decide to put the pride flag colors.....on bullets..........this may win for worst pride post and the month just started.

https://twitter.com/kiranm13/status/1532068048588328961
Meanwhile I’m over here screaming about co-opting the pride flag FOR BULLETS!!!

https://twitter.com/okayclare/status/1532031815686533122
"it gets better," i whisper as the gay pride bullets riddle my body. i feel completely at peace

https://twitter.com/nomadtellus/status/1532133193591177217
When these bullets enter the skulls of children those children will die knowing that the marine who fired them is filled with gay pride

https://twitter.com/SomeCallMeCap/status/1532350760649900033
The USMC #Pride2022 inclusion is nice - but holy fuck is the messaging of rainbow bullets bad

https://twitter.com/LynKiana/status/1532515169204457472
USMC acting like they support pride and putting rainbow bullets on their helmet is honestly borderline offensive. Signed a now gay ex military wife

https://twitter.com/Ushmerejr/status/1532270858856763393
Yesss!!! Nothing screams pride like committing war crimes with rainbow bullets!!!!

https://twitter.com/Dad_Presents/status/1532167449159737344
rainbow bullets from theMarines!

Because when a hot round is blasting through a small brown child’s chest at a mosque, let’s make sure it’s gay friendly!

Amazing.
I’m done now.

Happy pride month, ya queers.