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[Serious] For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(October 4, 2022 at 6:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: I left Catholicism, because, I got to the point where I did not believe in any of it anymore, and the Catholic hierarchy did not seem like they believe in any of it, nor did the Church's theologians (who like to question every single belief of the Church) believe in any of it, and my fellow churchgoers seemed like it was pro forma ritual for them, something that Mom & Dad did.  Plus, Catholic schools come across as being whites-only, middle to upper class private schools which simply exclude atheism, as contrasted with embracing Catholicism.

My wish for this thread is not to discuss Christian, Catholic and/or atheistic apologetics, but to see why former Christians left Christianity.

I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me.  



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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
Quote:I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me.  

The world shouldn't make sense to you. It's not supposed to make sense.
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(November 23, 2022 at 11:12 am)Objectivist Wrote:
(October 4, 2022 at 6:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: I left Catholicism, because, I got to the point where I did not believe in any of it anymore, and the Catholic hierarchy did not seem like they believe in any of it, nor did the Church's theologians (who like to question every single belief of the Church) believe in any of it, and my fellow churchgoers seemed like it was pro forma ritual for them, something that Mom & Dad did.  Plus, Catholic schools come across as being whites-only, middle to upper class private schools which simply exclude atheism, as contrasted with embracing Catholicism.

My wish for this thread is not to discuss Christian, Catholic and/or atheistic apologetics, but to see why former Christians left Christianity.

I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me.  

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"Fight for the value of your person.  Fight for the virtue of your pride.  Fight for the essence of that which is man, for his sovereign rational mind.  Fight with the radiant certainty and the absolute rectitude of knowing that yours is the morality of life."  Any Rand



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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(November 23, 2022 at 11:18 am)Ahriman Wrote:
Quote:I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me.  

The world shouldn't make sense to you. It's not supposed to make sense.
I see, it doesn't make sense to you.  Got it.
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(November 23, 2022 at 11:18 am)Ahriman Wrote:
Quote:I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me.  

The world shouldn't make sense to you. It's not supposed to make sense.

I wonder if we are not dealing with an AI bot here? What is 10 * 3 squared minus 7? Please observe standard rules of precedence.
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(October 4, 2022 at 1:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(October 4, 2022 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The act of masturbation is a mortal sin, full stop. The are no conditions or intentions which make it venial. Which is another good reason to leave the Church.

Also, there is no requirement to confess venial sins (it is, however, strongly encouraged).

Boru

From the Horse's mouth (no pun intended):

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."

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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(November 23, 2022 at 11:12 am)Objectivist Wrote:
(October 4, 2022 at 6:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: I left Catholicism, because, I got to the point where I did not believe in any of it anymore, and the Catholic hierarchy did not seem like they believe in any of it, nor did the Church's theologians (who like to question every single belief of the Church) believe in any of it, and my fellow churchgoers seemed like it was pro forma ritual for them, something that Mom & Dad did.  Plus, Catholic schools come across as being whites-only, middle to upper class private schools which simply exclude atheism, as contrasted with embracing Catholicism.

My wish for this thread is not to discuss Christian, Catholic and/or atheistic apologetics, but to see why former Christians left Christianity.

I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me. 
I left Catholicism when I realized I was helping to finance the world's largest and longest-running boy butt sex ring, complete with an underground railroad to relocate offenders to fresh pastures when they get caught.
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(December 15, 2022 at 10:20 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(November 23, 2022 at 11:12 am)Objectivist Wrote: I left because I discovered that Christianity isn't true.  Several years later I discovered rational philosophy and the world finally started making sense to me. 
I left Catholicism when I realized I was helping to finance the world's largest and longest-running boy butt sex ring, complete with an underground railroad to relocate offenders to fresh pastures when they get caught.
It's terrible to think how many lives have been destroyed.  What do you think causes it, the rules about celibacy?  I mean sex is an important part of human life and to deny that must be part of the reason there is so much of that going on.
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
I was kinda raised to be Catholic.

And, when I was very young, I was a true believer.

But I really stopped believing when I was eight or nine because I realised it was all absolute rubbish.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith?
(December 16, 2022 at 11:34 pm)Objectivist Wrote:
(December 15, 2022 at 10:20 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: I left Catholicism when I realized I was helping to finance the world's largest and longest-running boy butt sex ring, complete with an underground railroad to relocate offenders to fresh pastures when they get caught.
It's terrible to think how many lives have been destroyed.  What do you think causes it, the rules about celibacy?  I mean sex is an important part of human life and to deny that must be part of the reason there is so much of that going on.
Lots of people go without sex - pedophilia isn't a side effect.  I think they had a preexisting condition.  It may be that people with a deeply internalized shame, and an appropriately thematic world view, are compelled to become priests.  To square things with the almighty, as it were.
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