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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 5:11 pm
(January 26, 2023 at 2:51 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: (January 26, 2023 at 8:42 am)Belacqua Wrote: Money isn't the problem. They have more money than they know what to do with, and billions every year that they can't account for in the audits.
The problem is they choose to spend the money on fantastically expensive airplanes that don't work.
In fact now that everyone knows the F-35 will never be useful they have started to talk about replacing it with an actual usable machine. The F-35 has, after all, accomplished its mission, which was to funnel incredible amounts of money from the taxpayer to well-connected people who were already rich. That's about the only thing the Pentagon does well.
That’s exactly what they told my President for 3 more month to convince him to buy Russian S-300 systems (which are not even being used and are sitting in a military warehouse) in return for being kicked out of the F-35 program (of which we were producing some key elements).
I hadn't heard about this, but it doesn't surprise me. The whole weapons exchange thing is done for politics or for graft, not effective defense.
It's a way for the US to exert control over its obedient vassal states, and to enrich US manufacturers. Decisions are made based on political connections rather than what actually works.
For example, it looks as though these super-duper Abrams tanks which are going to fly in to rescue our man Zelensky are difficult to use because they require fuel that's different from other machines. This increases logistical and maintenance difficulties. And the reason they are built this way is because Rumsfeld used the Abrams program to enrich the Chrysler Corporation, which was struggling at the time.
https://spoilsofwar.substack.com/p/magic...-disasters
Anyway, CNN is saying the tanks won't arrive for a year. CNN lies constantly, of course, but only in pro-American ways, so we'll see. Lots of pledges of assistance like this are made for the headlines, and then when attention has shifted to the next thing the pledges are quietly forgotten. So let's see how many of these super-duper tanks really arrive.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 5:20 pm
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But never and cannot be a way for russia to do the same.
-aaaaaand...scene.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 5:34 pm
(January 26, 2023 at 10:09 am)GrandizerII Wrote: clearly, things aren't going well for them, and they know that the Western powers weren't going to sit by and just watch. I know, hindsight is 20/20, but this is the situation Russia is in now. And both Russia and Ukraine are suffering because of it.
No doubt at all that both countries are suffering for it.
But I think the situation is less bad for Russia than Western media makes out. Most of what's available in English-language "news" is wildly skewed.
In fact two thirds of the people on earth live in countries that are neutral in the war or pro-Russia.
https://country.eiu.com/article.aspx?art...+stability
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The people in these areas get different news than the anglophone world, or Western Europe, or Japan.
They hear that Russian forces are advancing slowly but surely, taking one town after another. For example before Soledar was taken, US spokesmen said it was strategically important, but after it fell they said it wasn't strategically important. US media, when it finally admitted the fall of Soledar, said it was a Pyrrhic victory because Russia lost so many soldiers. But Russia didn't pause at all, and was able to continue its advance, which is still going on.
Two different Ukrainian officials, in interviews with journalists not in the US propaganda bubble, said that Ukraine is losing soldiers at a terrible rate -- far faster than Russia is -- and that the war cannot be sustained if this rate continues. There are dozens of videos of Ukrainian soldiers dragooning civilians off the street.
We hear constantly that Ukraine is winning, which is not consistent with their constant begging for new and better weapons. Or with the fact that 20% of what they consider their territory is occupied -- and the % is growing. It's not consistent with the fact that half their energy infrastructure is gone for the foreseeable future. Or with the fact that many of their top defense officials were just fired for corruption. In addition they have lost their sovereignty -- the US has had veto power over their government officials since at least 2014, and now that Zelensky has turned the country over to BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, and other vultures the Ukrainian people will be subject to Neoliberal austerity like every other country that the bankers take over. Their institutions and resources no longer belong to them.
Meanwhile Putin knows that wars are not only fought on the battlefield. Despite sanctions Russia's economy is doing well. Many of the Western countries who announced they were pulling out of Russia haven't really done so. Those companies that did pull out (e.g. Starbucks and McDonalds) have been replaced by local owners, so the money stays in the country. Meanwhile Russia and China are pushed closer together economically as the Russian market opens up for Chinese goods, including their booming auto industry.
Russia is selling more oil and gas than ever, despite supposed sanctions. A lot of this goes to India, who repackages it and sells it to England at an enormous cost mark-up, meaning the British get the same gas they would have, but more expensively.
And rumbling along in the background is the advance of BRICS, as more people want to join, including Saudi Arabia, which is signaling the end of the petrodollar and a new multi-polar world. More and more countries are moving to ditch international transactions in dollars. Since much of America's clout was based on its being the reserve currency, when the dollar is no longer required the US will be in big trouble. Previously any country which announced it would ditch the petrodollar got a heavy dose of US "democracy," and had its leadership replaced or killed. But so far that isn't happening this time.
Putin knows that his country is winning in ways that matter more than trenches in Ukraine. This war has triggered international political changes which will hurt the US for a long time.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 6:17 pm
1.Russia's minor gains mean nothing to the overall war. Ukraine is still overall winning.
2.No Ukraine is not being taken over by Neo-Liberalism at least no more so than already was before the war.
3. The Russian economy is not doing well at all. Despite what Russia's propaganda is saying.
4. Fringe elements of the Ukraine government aren't a reliable source of anything. Let-alone causality numbers and random videos without context aren't either.
5. Russia's oil actually struggling which is why they are pushing out more to keep it afloat
6. Almost all the countries that are Pro Russian or Neutral are either Autocratic states or in Russia's Pocket so hardly an accurate assessment of anything.
7. No Putin is losing in every way he can lose on and off the battlefield
So any other Kremlin talking points you would like to repeat or would you like to be left with your copium
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 6:21 pm
Quote:I hadn't heard about this, but it doesn't surprise me. The whole weapons exchange thing is done for politics or for graft, not effective defense.
Actually it is done for effective defense
Quote:It's a way for the US to exert control over its obedient vassal states, and to enrich US manufacturers. Decisions are made based on political connections rather than what actually works.
Ukraine is a free and independent state and an equal who is simply being supplied with weapons
Quote:For example, it looks as though these super-duper Abrams tanks which are going to fly in to rescue our man Zelensky are difficult to use because they require fuel that's different from other machines. This increases logistical and maintenance difficulties. And the reason they are built this way is because Rumsfeld used the Abrams program to enrich the Chrysler Corporation, which was struggling at the time.
https://spoilsofwar.substack.com/p/magic...-disasters
Anyway, CNN is saying the tanks won't arrive for a year. CNN lies constantly, of course, but only in pro-American ways, so we'll see. Lots of pledges of assistance like this are made for the headlines, and then when attention has shifted to the next thing the pledges are quietly forgotten. So let's see how many of these super-duper tanks really arrive.
And conspiracy nonsense. and a fucking substack as source
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 6:21 pm
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(January 26, 2023 at 5:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: But never and cannot be a way for russia to do the same.
-aaaaaand...scene.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Soledar was a minor victory that cost the Russians huge amounts of troops and equipment and months of fighting. Proof Russia can't fight because if they could they would have won weeks ago and this imaginary encirclement Russia simps keep bleating about isn't going to happen. It's amazing Russia can lose battle after battle and the simps will keep saying they aren't losing yet they win one minor victory and they act like it means something...
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 26, 2023 at 6:55 pm
Live footage of your average Russian Simp
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 27, 2023 at 3:26 am
(January 26, 2023 at 5:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: I hadn't heard about this, but it doesn't surprise me. The whole weapons exchange thing is done for politics or for graft, not effective defense. I am sure everybody is writing letters to Putin right now, thanking him for invading Ukraine.
(January 26, 2023 at 5:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: It's a way for the US to exert control over its obedient vassal states, and to enrich US manufacturers. Decisions are made based on political connections rather than what actually works. Do you really think we believe you to be that stupid?
(January 26, 2023 at 5:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: For example, it looks as though these super-duper Abrams tanks which are going to fly in to rescue our man Zelensky are difficult to use because they require fuel that's different from other machines. Which is flat out wrong.
Ok, you are that stupid.
(January 26, 2023 at 5:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: CNN lies constantly, of course, but only in pro-American ways, I put that into google translate and it came up with : "CNN is wrong, but only when is disagrees with me"
How convenient
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 27, 2023 at 3:39 am
(January 26, 2023 at 6:36 pm)Helios Wrote: Soledar was a minor victory that cost the Russians huge amounts of troops and equipment and months of fighting. Proof Russia can't fight because if they could they would have won weeks ago and this imaginary encirclement Russia simps keep bleating about isn't going to happen. It's amazing Russia can lose battle after battle and the simps will keep saying they aren't losing yet they win one minor victory and they act like it means something...
They are thinking about Endsieg. Its the only thing that matters.
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