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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 29, 2023 at 1:51 pm
Nuts need to find a way to satisfy their anti-american urges without shit-talking the third party who is, at least supposedly, a victim of us malfeasance to begin with.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 29, 2023 at 2:47 pm
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Wow, Bels denying Putin intended to invade countries besides Ukraine. Except we know via a leak he was planning on invading Moldova. That's the plan that was leaked who knows how far he was going to take it if we had not acted?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 29, 2023 at 9:12 pm
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(January 29, 2023 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Nuts need to find a way to satisfy their anti-american urges without shit-talking the third party who is, at least supposedly, a victim of us malfeasance to begin with.
Right, and shitty talking-points should be rebutted. Dingbat doesn't know his ass from third-base about this stuff. The real issue is whether UAF can keep 'em flying, and that's about R&M, and logistics. Runways? Meh. Ukraine's got plenty still active more than 6000' long. Get these pilots trained. Get ammo into the zone, fuel the things, and stand back.
Also park SAMs around 'em. It ain't post-calculus, it ain't even Algebra I.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 3:17 am
(January 29, 2023 at 2:47 pm)Helios Wrote: Wow, Bels denying Putin intended to invade countries besides Ukraine. Except we know via a leak he was planning on invading Moldova. That's the plan that was leaked who knows how far he was going to take it if we had not acted?
https://odessa-journal.com/russia-planne...arly-2023/ I bet lee h. Oswald did not want to assassinate anyone besides kennedy.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 5:37 am
(January 29, 2023 at 9:12 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 29, 2023 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Nuts need to find a way to satisfy their anti-american urges without shit-talking the third party who is, at least supposedly, a victim of us malfeasance to begin with.
Right, and shitty talking-points should be rebutted. Dingbat doesn't know his ass from third-base about this stuff. The real issue is whether UAF can keep 'em flying, and that's about R&M, and logistics. Runways? Meh. Ukraine's got plenty still active more than 6000' long. Get these pilots trained. Get ammo into the zone, fuel the things, and stand back.
Also park SAMs around 'em. It ain't post-calculus, it ain't even Algebra I.
Hardware issues aside, Bel seems to be taking the bizarre position that Ukraine and the US are somehow at fault for Russia's invasion. This is a puzzlement.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 9:13 am
It's only bizarre if you didn't see the dance leading up to it, then...it's bugfuck.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 3:56 pm
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(January 30, 2023 at 5:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 29, 2023 at 9:12 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Right, and shitty talking-points should be rebutted. Dingbat doesn't know his ass from third-base about this stuff. The real issue is whether UAF can keep 'em flying, and that's about R&M, and logistics. Runways? Meh. Ukraine's got plenty still active more than 6000' long. Get these pilots trained. Get ammo into the zone, fuel the things, and stand back.
Also park SAMs around 'em. It ain't post-calculus, it ain't even Algebra I.
Hardware issues aside, Bel seems to be taking the bizarre position that Ukraine and the US are somehow at fault for Russia's invasion. This is a puzzlement.
Boru He's embraced the typical Pro-Russian talking points
1. That somehow free and independent nations aren't allowed to join alliances they want.
2. The delusion that NATO was posing a threat to Russia and that somehow NATO was going to put nukes in Ukraine despite the fact NATO could already place Nukes in the Baltic States which are already in NATO.
3. Whinning that Ukraine dealt with a bunch of Russian-backed insurrectionists
4. The Bullshit lie that Ukraine banned the Russian language and was trying to kill all Russian speakers
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 4:00 pm
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The Russian talking point is that if Ukraine joined NATO they would place nukes there. If NATO really wanted to place nukes at Russia's border they already have access to the Baltic States which are already members of NATO .Funny how Russia has not invaded them recently... 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 4:30 pm
(January 29, 2023 at 9:12 am)Belacqua Wrote: (January 29, 2023 at 8:13 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Leonardo17Think of Libya for instance. You mean the country that had the highest standard of living in Northern Africa until the US had its leader killed, throwing the whole country into chaos? Hillary was proud of that one. Millions of people suffered.
Quote:So as civilized nations, we need these systems without which anyone can do anything and this is no longer an option. This is not the 8th century in which you can just raid other people when you don’t have enough in your own land. The world has evolved and it has become this. 
But the US is currently stealing wheat and oil from Syria. Britain has stolen billions in gold from Venezuela. The US regularly sponsors coups in countries from which it wants to take resources. Elon Musk has announced that we can make a coup in any country we want, because he wants the lithium.
It is very much possible to raid other people and take stuff. It happens constantly.
After the US pulled out of Afghanistan Biden stole billions of their money, and gave half of it to people affected by the 9-11 attacks -- even though the people of Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9-11. That's theft.
Quote: Trump was insane and trump seems to be losing his grip on the Republican Party and I hope he doesn’t ever regain that power because the result would be some sort of imbalance in a two party model democracy. That’s my point of view.
Trump was insane? He certainly made crazy Tweets. But Biden has continued almost all of his policies.
And let's remember that everything they said about Trump's connections with Russia, the "kompromat," the piss tape, the Russian interference that cost Hillary the election -- all of that was lies. They lied and blamed Russia as a way to control the media. That's been proven.
Quote: if you let Russia take Ukraine not only Putin will keep advancing into place like Poland
How do you know this?
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So as I told you before: there is no “western” media. There is a lot of independent Russian speaking media outlets too. So don’t try to be “the smartest” try to be well informed about issues. That’s how I would do it
Corporate media in the anglophone world are obedient spokesmen for the US military/industrial complex. It cannot be trusted.
You are right that other countries have propagandistic media also. But China's propaganda ministry is no doubt jealous of the anglophone media, who parrot the government line with far less coercion involved. The government can lie again and again, and the obedient readers will believe them.
Tell the warmongers not to be the "smartest" please. In every war that comes along, the government lies to them, and they believe it every time.
1) I don’t understand people who cry after dictators like this. I was opposed to Bush’s aggression in Iraq. But I hate fascism to level in which I don’t care who does what to such people. I don’t believe in that sort of stability.
2) Last Part: A country like mine could live 2-3 years with the Money thay the US spent in Afghanistan. And I still don’t understand what happened there. I would have left in 2-3 years, or I would just stay there like they stayed in Japan and West Germany. It’s all Trump’s insanity.
And please beware of insanity. We live in an era of insanity. SO you should try not listening to insane new-outlets.
What you are talking about ended after WWII. That’s why colonial empires had to be disbanded. It was 1962 when the French President General de Gaulle had switched his political discourse from “Algeria is France” to “Our power is within”. Today Germans are switching colonialist names in their streets to the names of African leaders who resisted European (German) colonialism.
Of course resources are important. That’s why Chinese are all over Africa. But the Chinese are there to somehow “convince” local populations and governments to give up their natural resources.
Yet, this is also a twisted way of doing things. So you are right in principle. But still: The civilized world doesn’t send mercenaries to steal mines. No one does that anymore
3) I think he is still insane. I’ve heard that Putin gave him a taste of Moscovan nights when he visited him before becoming the president of the US. I think he is even dangerous. Look what he did with the laws on abortion.
4) Russia is an empire. Empires must grow. Or they will shrink. That’s why the leadership in Russia after Putin is so important.
5) This last thing you said is a paranoia level belief system. I think you (all of you across the world – those who believe in conspiracies) are simply using too much social media. I think you guys should read more books and focus on some of the better traditional media outlets. Because I think erroneous beliefs will become a problem in your real life at some point of your life (lives).
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2023 at 4:31 pm
(January 29, 2023 at 10:09 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 29, 2023 at 5:47 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: The German Tanks will arrive within weeks (the training time is shorter and it uses diesel, not jet fuel[...]
Goddamn, people. Read!
Wiki Wrote:The engine can use a variety of fuels, including jet fuel, gasoline, diesel and marine diesel.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_AGT1500
Quote:The AGT 1500 turbine engine has five primary fuels: diesel fuels 1, 2, and arctic grade, and jet propellant fuels 4 and 5. In case of an emergency, the engine is also capable of using combat gasoline and marine diesel.
https://militaryleak.com/2019/01/18/hone...00-engine/
(January 29, 2023 at 6:07 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: As of today, satellite imagery shows that Russians are digging trenches in occupied territories. It looks like the new Russian offensive which will start from Bakhmut or from Belarus is not really going to happen. I think they know what’s coming although they are saying that modern tanks are not going to change anything. Another interesting fact: The size and capacities of the Russian army seems to have been overestimated since the Soviet Era. Russians are turning to relic tanks from the 1960’s which belong to museums or should be in the possession of some rich collectors for their war in Ukraine.
So for all these reasons, I think there could be some regime change with a more logical approach to everything in the coming months. (hopefully)
I wouldn't take digging in as a sign that they won't renew attacks. They could well be waiting for the ground to freeze over to provide mobility, and digging in until that occurs, or they may be trying to economize forces on one front in order to provide for a larger offensive elsewhere; or a combination of both.
I think they are already exhausted.
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