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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
(March 29, 2023 at 12:04 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(March 29, 2023 at 6:41 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: This is really good news (more than most people realize :Smile

And  again some numbers:
 
Greece has 1250 Battle Tanks.

Turkey Has 3000.

Germany in WWII had 3200 battle tanks.

Russia has lost about 2000 battle tanks / 1200 of these were directly destroyed by Ukrainian armed forces.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-regim...26362.html

The thing you have to remember about China is that they want Russia as a vassal not a partner, and the best way to do that is string Putain on long enough to keep weakening Russia in Ukraine enough that he has to come cap in hand to Xi, who will then dictate terms.

India's interests are all about protecting their borders from China.  Up until recently Modi believed the bullshit that Russia was peddling about its wunderwaffen.  Given how piss poor Russian materiel has been in Ukraine and how missing Russia's latest weapons have been, even Modi must realise he's been had.  And if Russia is a waste of space for India, who does that leave?

As far as I know, New Russian weapons like the Armada Tank, S-400’g, Su-57’s were not junk weapons at all. But they required western components and cannot be produced without them.
 
Even before the sanctions they were produced in small numbers because they are enormously expensive. And this is why I am very sceptic about the new “locally produced” fighter planes of the President For 45 More Days.
 
And I am not a great fan of Russia either. But I see some serious lack of balance in the world when Russia is making huge concessions to Iran and assumes a vassal ship role toward China. This changes the whole dynamics of central Asia and gives too much power to China which is an authoritarian state and totally unpredictable for instance on the issue of Taiwan.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(April 2, 2023 at 8:57 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: As far as I know, New Russian weapons like the Armada Tank, S-400’g, Su-57’s were not junk weapons at all. But they required western components and cannot be produced without them.

The Armata and SU-57 are both pretty much junk. The S-400 is a capable SAM, but the Armata shares the same design flaw that has launched the turrets of a thousand Russian tanks: the ammunition for the autoloader is stored at the bottom of the turret bustle. On top of that, they've only managed to build about 20 copies in the last nine years. Nine years, 20 tanks. Not nearly enough to make any difference on the battlefield.

The SU-57 is hyped as Russia's "stealth" fighter, but it's only stealthy from the front. It's incredibly maneuverable, but when your opponents can see you and kill you 50 miles away that doesn't matter so much, 'cause you ain't outmaneuvering modern missiles. Its sensor suite leaves a bit to be desired too. And to top it all off, they're only expecting the delivery of 22 copies by the end of 2024.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Vladlen Tatarsky, pro-Russian military blogger who wrote (paraphrased), ,"we will conquer everyone, we will kill everyone" about the people of Ukraine, has just gone "boom" in a St. Petersburg cafe.

Apparently, a young woman handed him a statuette full of explosives.

To quote Billy Connolly. "Boom! One less prick in the world!"

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(April 2, 2023 at 12:53 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Vladlen Tatarsky, pro-Russian military blogger who wrote (paraphrased),  ,"we will conquer everyone, we will kill everyone" about the people of Ukraine, has just gone "boom" in a St. Petersburg cafe.

Apparently, a young woman handed him a statuette full of explosives.

To quote Billy Connolly. "Boom!  One less prick in the world!"

You reap what you sow



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RE: Russia and Ukraine
A Russian Major General (with apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan)

I am the very model of a Russian major general, 
My standing on the battlefield is growing quite untenable.
My forces though equipped and given orders unequivocal,
Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal.

I used to have a tank brigade, but now I have lost several,
My fresh assaults are faltering with battle plans extemporal.
I can’t recover vehicles, but farmers in a tractor can -
It’s all become rather reminiscent of Afghanistan.

My ordnance is the best, but only half my missiles made it there.
I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air.
But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral -
I am the very model of a Russian major general.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(March 31, 2023 at 12:19 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 31, 2023 at 4:03 am)GUBU Wrote: Understood.  But the thing was India was willing to put up with a certain amount of that up until the invasion, for example India has heavily invested in the Armata despite no operational models being built.  But the war in Ukraine has shown how much of a bad idea it is to depend on Russian weapons systems.

Agreed, I wasn't intending to undercut your point but rather to supplement it. Sorry if I came across otherwise.

Nah, you didn't, I was just clarifying.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(April 2, 2023 at 8:57 am)Leonardo17 Wrote:
(March 29, 2023 at 12:04 pm)GUBU Wrote: The thing you have to remember about China is that they want Russia as a vassal not a partner, and the best way to do that is string Putain on long enough to keep weakening Russia in Ukraine enough that he has to come cap in hand to Xi, who will then dictate terms.

India's interests are all about protecting their borders from China.  Up until recently Modi believed the bullshit that Russia was peddling about its wunderwaffen.  Given how piss poor Russian materiel has been in Ukraine and how missing Russia's latest weapons have been, even Modi must realise he's been had.  And if Russia is a waste of space for India, who does that leave?

As far as I know, New Russian weapons like the Armada Tank, S-400’g, Su-57’s were not junk weapons at all. But they required western components and cannot be produced without them.
 
Even before the sanctions they were produced in small numbers because they are enormously expensive. And this is why I am very sceptic about the new “locally produced” fighter planes of the President For 45 More Days.
 
And I am not a great fan of Russia either. But I see some serious lack of balance in the world when Russia is making huge concessions to Iran and assumes a vassal ship role toward China. This changes the whole dynamics of central Asia and gives too much power to China which is an authoritarian state and totally unpredictable for instance on the issue of Taiwan.

You should check out Lazerpig's recent video on the Armata, for example it's engine is based off the one used in Tigers, ie a badly upgraded WW2 engine. And given we haven't (to my knowledge) seen the Su-57 in combat and given that the Su-75 is a wooden mockup, neither of those appear to be much better.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
If Theranos were an arms dealer.....
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(April 4, 2023 at 9:17 am)GUBU Wrote:
(April 2, 2023 at 8:57 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: As far as I know, New Russian weapons like the Armada Tank, S-400’g, Su-57’s were not junk weapons at all. But they required western components and cannot be produced without them.
 
Even before the sanctions they were produced in small numbers because they are enormously expensive. And this is why I am very sceptic about the new “locally produced” fighter planes of the President For 45 More Days.
 
And I am not a great fan of Russia either. But I see some serious lack of balance in the world when Russia is making huge concessions to Iran and assumes a vassal ship role toward China. This changes the whole dynamics of central Asia and gives too much power to China which is an authoritarian state and totally unpredictable for instance on the issue of Taiwan.

You should check out Lazerpig's recent video on the Armata, for example it's engine is based off the one used in Tigers, ie a badly upgraded WW2 engine.  And given we haven't (to my knowledge) seen the Su-57 in combat and given that the Su-75 is a wooden mockup, neither of those appear to be much better.

Here is to that Smile 



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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(April 4, 2023 at 9:17 am)GUBU Wrote:
(April 2, 2023 at 8:57 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: As far as I know, New Russian weapons like the Armada Tank, S-400’g, Su-57’s were not junk weapons at all. But they required western components and cannot be produced without them.
 
Even before the sanctions they were produced in small numbers because they are enormously expensive. And this is why I am very sceptic about the new “locally produced” fighter planes of the President For 45 More Days.
 
And I am not a great fan of Russia either. But I see some serious lack of balance in the world when Russia is making huge concessions to Iran and assumes a vassal ship role toward China. This changes the whole dynamics of central Asia and gives too much power to China which is an authoritarian state and totally unpredictable for instance on the issue of Taiwan.

You should check out Lazerpig's recent video on the Armata, for example it's engine is based off the one used in Tigers, ie a badly upgraded WW2 engine.  And given we haven't (to my knowledge) seen the Su-57 in combat and given that the Su-75 is a wooden mockup, neither of those appear to be much better.
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