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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Russia Threatens to Destroy U.K. for Giving Ukraine Storm Shadow Missiles

Georgiy Muradov, permanent representative of Crimea under the Russian president, told Russia's state-run news agency RIA Novosti in an interview published on Friday that the U.K. may be turned "into a devastated territory" following the delivery of the weapons to Ukraine.

"The English island itself risks turning into a devastated territory [after providing Ukraine with depleted uranium shells and long-range missiles] aimed at the Russian Crimea," said Muradov.

"This conflict had nothing to do with Great Britain. I would like to believe that not all British have yet lost the instinct of self-preservation, which, apparently, the foreigners ruling the British are trying to deprive them of," said Muradov.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-crimea-t...es-1799900
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I think this would fit well in the Daily Conspiracy thread.
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"The thinking was, the enemy never thought we'd do it here" - ukrainian command on the kharkiv/kherson offensives.

I want to say right off the bat that there's nothing in eastern ukraine critical to either side in the textbook definition. Russias invasion was completely elective and can be maintained (such as it is) from anywhere along their long border. Ukraine isn't depending on their own infrastructure or industry in defense. By concentrating their forces in bahkmut as the only place they could successfully attack, russia made bakhmut a critical target to a specific objective. Not the grinding attritional phase, which ukraine managed brilliantly, particularly in that they hollowed out the bakhmut defense to pull of kharkiv/kherson. Not to the incremental gain of a few kms of territory here and there which they can achieve anywhere along the line. As an opportunity to crush the invading forces and eliminate their ability to project force -anywhere- for decades. Most of russias combat capable forces, including their mercs, are in or around bahkmut. Defeating them there, either by envelopment or outright assualt, is to defeat the entire russian war machine for a generation..and yeah, if that goes down, it will have been over a town that meant nothing otherwise. OTOH, if ukraine lets them back out or even hobble home, they know the russians will simply come back - maybe bully some even smaller countries around for awhile to get better at this modern war thing they can't figure out, in the interim.

Prigo isn't a straight shooting truth dealer, but he's very clearly laying the information groundwork for a russian defeat in bakhmut (and, particularly, that it aint his fault....lol), ukraine has been ramping up the strikes in the area, and they have been massing their new units in the area. The guys that russians have been conditioned to fear. Nazi supersoldier vets of the early invasion, now with western gear. They did this outside of kherson, and made a big public deal about it, right before they took kharkiv...but it wasn't a feint, they fully intended to take kherson too, and they did.
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(May 12, 2023 at 8:39 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I would like to believe that not all British have yet lost the instinct of self-preservation, which, apparently, the foreigners ruling the British are trying to deprive them of

(May 12, 2023 at 8:42 am)Angrboda Wrote: I think this would fit well in the Daily Conspiracy thread.

Meanwhile, in the US, disgraced former general mike flynn is hosting a russian propaganda fest at one of the disgraced formed presidents properties.  The message?  Russia calls on the american heartland to rise up against the foreign globalist elites running their country from the coast.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(May 12, 2023 at 5:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ^This. It's not uncommon - especially when you think you have military resources and to spare - to pick a soft, relatively unimportant target, hammer it mercilessly, then tout it as a victory. One of Putin's problems is that Ukrainians stubbornly refuse to take part in that scenario.

Boru

But both parties (the West & Russia) are famous for playing this pathetic game.

-The west:

1-America's invasion of Iraq
2-The NATO's invasion of Afghanistan

-Russia:

1-civil war in Syria

In reality -and I clearly say it as an Arab-, we think that both parties have nothing advanced but airforce + WMDs.

So the pathetic game is the motto of superpowers since WW2: airforce demolishing weak, hungry, deprived infantry.
It's like medieval knights in full armor VS naked peasants.

Both parties (the west and Russia) are experts in this game, but this time it's medieval knights in full armor VS medieval knights in full armor. And I bet it will end with a nuke.
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^If you think all the West has is air forces and WMD, you are - and I mean this in the nicest possible way - an idiot.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(May 15, 2023 at 4:17 pm)WinterHold Wrote: In reality -and I clearly say it as an Arab-, we think that both parties have nothing advanced but airforce + WMDs.

Mr Abrams would like a word with you:

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So would Joe Dogface:

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Might want to check out MANPATS and MANPADS as well:

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Quote:But both parties (the West & Russia) are famous for playing this pathetic game.

-The west:

1-America's invasion of Iraq
2-The NATO's invasion of Afghanistan
Lol considering they whoop the Iraqi twice and the Taliban were so afraid of the US that they refused to engage them in open combat and instead focused on killing their own people instead. Tell me again who is pathetic? 


Quote:-Russia:

1-civil war in Syria
Yup bailing out one of your beloved Islamic governments and fighting another one. 


Quote:In reality -and I clearly say it as an Arab-, we think that both parties have nothing advanced but airforce + WMDs.
Both a military tech your little nations could make in 100 years which is why you have been buying equipment from both for the last 120 years with Russian or American weapons you would be fighting your enemies with swords and bows. 


Quote:So the pathetic game is the motto of superpowers since WW2: airforce demolishing weak, hungry, deprived infantry.
Sorry, your butthurt about airpower. Mainly because you couldn't have invented it. But assure you as operation desert storm proved the US can demolish your incompetent hired thugs  on the ground too. 



Quote:It's like medieval knights in full armor VS naked peasants.

Sorry if war isn't fought as fair as you would like and you suck at history too. Peasants didn't fight naked. 


Quote:Both parties (the west and Russia) are experts in this game, but this time it's medieval knights in full armor VS medieval knights in full armor. And I bet it will end with a nuke.
No, it isn't. Not even close.
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(May 15, 2023 at 4:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(May 15, 2023 at 4:17 pm)WinterHold Wrote: In reality -and I clearly say it as an Arab-, we think that both parties have nothing advanced but airforce + WMDs.

Mr Abrams would like a word with you:

[Image: Abrams_Image_WSH2020-1536x1024.jpg]

So would Joe Dogface:

[Image: Squad.jpg]

Might want to check out MANPATS and MANPADS as well:

[Image: NLAW_Live_Firing_2nd_Battalion%2C_The_Pa...t_2021.jpg]

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Don't forget the good old Bradley IFV

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Or the M109A6 Paladin SPA 

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Or the HIMARS

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"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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^And this is what the Beer Belly Brigade thinks they can take on with grandpappy’s squirrel gun.





Boru
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