Plato made atlantis. IDK the guys name who made any of the various batteries, but I fear we're drifting into a roughly equivalent misattribution.

We remember plato because of what he got right about humanity, not geography. I think the same is probably true of the authors of various sacred texts around the world. If they were manuals for making batteries, for example, they'd end up where manuals always do. The trash.

I'm still not seeing the connection between the batteries (or now, atlantis) and aliens, big oil ct, cattle mutilation, and ufos? Is this something you've thought through, or is it more of a pile-up?

(July 17, 2023 at 1:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Plato made atlantis.  IDK the guys name who made any of the various batteries, but I fear we're drifting into a roughly equivalent misattribution.

We remember plato because of what he got right about humanity, not geography.  I think the same is probably true of the authors of various sacred texts around the world.  If they were manuals for making batteries, for example, they'd end up where manuals always do.  The trash.

I'm still not seeing the connection between the batteries (or now, atlantis) and aliens, big oil ct, cattle mutilation, and ufos?  Is this something you've thought through, or is it more of a pile-up?

My main thing is that the aliens genetically engineered us and then we worshipped them and wrote about them for a long time afterward


Everything else is included only to expand on what I believe to be true about the aliens and our history with them

And I won't lie: every part of the grand unified narrative is something I originally heard from either Steven Greer, Mauro Biglino or Billy Carson and then went on to convince myself of

That's cool and all...but...I'm just wondering what the batteries are doing for that, if anything?

(July 17, 2023 at 2:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's cool and all...but...I'm just wondering what the batteries are doing for that, if anything?

The batteries, and any other evidence of advanced science in ancient times, are a moot point since no one seems to disagree that sometimes ancient people figured out some things that've been traditionally thought of as modern inventions/discoveries

I threw in the batteries even after acknowledging it was a moot point in the original reply

I acknowledge that homo sapiens sapiens could have evolved without external interference

I also acknowledge that advanced ancient science doesn't necessarily have to be the result of aliens teaching us anything

Also, I acknowledge that it was Plato who originally told the story of Atlantis; I nonetheless hold that ancient aliens built it

Ancients people could have figured out a few things we previously thought of as modern inventions.    But we need to have some perspective on just how significant a revelation that is.    It is easy and at times tempting to sensationalize and implicitly grossly exaggerate what it said about what the ancient actually had.

The key things that separate the modern age of scientific discovery from previous age of some smart guide having an occasional lonesome lightbulb moment is modern age of discover is based on the developement of a systematic approach to discovery, a institutional structure that tremendously  broadens the basis of talent which can be applied to the discovery, a institutionalized structure that greatly increases the probability that any clever people would be able to readily built upon the work of previous clever people rather than keep reinventing the wheel each time,  and a highly developed and multiply redundant system that progressively filters the wishful thinking, willful deceit and honest mistakes from thinkimg that actuallly correlates to reality upon which concrete things can be built.

The popular perception of a few mad geniuses plus a couple of Sheldon coopers is not what made the modern era of discovery possible, which is why the ancient had no chance in hell of having equaled the modern ear of discovery.

Even if there were a few very clever discoveries thousands of years ago which we had previously overlooked, we are as surely correct as we can be about the fact that they had none of the things which are required to make for a period of high discovery output such as the one we developed since the 1700s.

As to aliens.   My only observation is modern humans have lost none of the self-serving.sensationalistic duplicitousness and gullibility that made some ancients pretend to be the wisemen or invent some prophets, and others to let religion revealed to them by these “wiseman” and  “prophets” rule their lives.

(July 17, 2023 at 12:13 am)Sicnoo0 Wrote:

(July 17, 2023 at 12:04 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: I will make the obvious but deserved cheap shot - an organization that hordes information and still profess to believe a Jesus that is god can misuse any information to fraudulently support anything.

I'll break into the Vatican myself and then we can have a field day translating everything with whatever experts you'd accept on standby

Storm the Vatican 2023: They can't molest all of us

And the Swiss Guard can have a field day using you for target practice.

Boru

Thanos is real. Prove me wrong.

(July 17, 2023 at 5:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Thanos is real. Prove me wrong.

You know very well that I can't do that because the government is hiding the evidence.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:I think I should make my beliefs clear.
I believe the government is hiding zero-point energy from us in cooperation with Big Oil.
I believe the famous cattle mutilations were perpetrated by either extraterrestrials or the military

It is really drab how every ufologist I ever heard talking about aliens in the next sentence always talks about "the government" and how they hide everything. So the alien conspiracy is not really about aliens but about the American government.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:I believe the Tic Tac UFO is either extraterrestrials, the Russians, or the Chinese

That has been debunked as a duck.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:the Agastya Samhita debuted about 6k years ago. The clay battery is an example of Hindu scriptures getting something right.

From what I see, the Agastya Samhita seems to be dated to medieval times, and it is not clear about what is talked in that part about the clay battery, or is it legitimate. The other thing is that ancient people were fascinated by electricity, like the one that can be found in amber. For many thousands of years people have been trading with amber because, among other things, they thought that its static electricity can heal.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:every part of the grand unified narrative is something I originally heard from either Steven Greer,

Ah yes, the lunatic who claims that watching and laughing at the movie "Birdcage" cured him of cancer that the government gave him from the secret underground facility that he visited in out of body experience.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:My main thing is that the aliens genetically engineered us and then we worshipped them and wrote about them for a long time afterward

That is very Daniken.

Sicnoo0 Wrote:Also, I acknowledge that it was Plato who originally told the story of Atlantis; I nonetheless hold that ancient aliens built it

If we stick to Plato's description of Atlantis then Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.

So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.

(July 17, 2023 at 2:32 am)Sicnoo0 Wrote:

(July 17, 2023 at 2:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's cool and all...but...I'm just wondering what the batteries are doing for that, if anything?

The batteries, and any other evidence of advanced science in ancient times, are a moot point since no one seems to disagree that sometimes ancient people figured out some things that've been traditionally thought of as modern inventions/discoveries

I threw in the batteries even after acknowledging it was a moot point in the original reply

I acknowledge that homo sapiens sapiens could have evolved without external interference

I also acknowledge that advanced ancient science doesn't necessarily have to be the result of aliens teaching us anything

Also, I acknowledge that it was Plato who originally told the story of Atlantis; I nonetheless hold that ancient aliens built it

(Bold mine)

There was nothing to build. Atlantis is an allegory that Plato used to demonstrate his concept of an ideal state. It was a fictional place when Plato made it up, and it's a fictional place now.

Boru