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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:02 pm
(July 27, 2023 at 9:44 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Since the church was in on the excesses that led up to the French Revolution, is it not surprising the people had a problem with them? That tends to be a common factor in countries that go from very Christian to virulently anti-Christian. Either that or the established churches becoming deeply opposed to them before they took over.
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:04 pm
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:08 pm
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:11 pm
He needs to run all this stuff through chatgbt to see if it’s been debunk before embarrassing herself
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:13 pm
Or maybe he is using chatgbt for stupid arguments to piss atheists off?
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 10:29 pm
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(July 27, 2023 at 8:03 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: However, the historical record clearly shows Christians, not Atheists, including such Catholic Christians as Lord Baltimore in Maryland, were Pioneers in promoting Religious Liberty at at time Atheists weren't.
That is a lie. Here is from Napoleon's biography by Andrew Roberts:
Quote:Reforms that Napoleon imposed on the newly conquered territories included the abolition of internal tariffs, which helped to stimulate economic development, the ending of noble assemblies and other centres of feudal privilege, financial restructurings aimed at bringing down state debt, ending the restrictive guild system, imposing religious toleration, closing the ghettos and allowing Jews to live anywhere, and sometimes nationalizing Church property. These modernizing measures, which were repeated in most of the territories he conquered over the coming decade, were applauded by middle-class progressives in many lands beyond France, including by people who hated Napoleon.
Where he abolished the Inquisition, obscure feudal practices, anti-Semitic regulations and restraints on trade and industry such as the guilds, Napoleon also brought genuine enlightenment to peoples who, without his armies’ victories, would have remained often without rights or equality before the law.
Napoleon wrote from Milan in May 1796 to the eminent Italian astronomer Barnaba Oriani. ‘Men of learning in Milan have not enjoyed proper respect. They hid themselves in their laboratories and thought themselves lucky if . . . priests left them alone. All is changed today. Thought in Italy is free. Inquisition, intolerance, despots have vanished. I invite scholars to meet and propose what must be done to give science and the arts a new flowering.’ Academics were impressed by the abolition of censorship.
So we see that it was Napoleon who introduced religious toleration, closed ghettos, abolished Inquisition, and introduced free thinking.
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 11:06 pm
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 11:27 pm
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Yes because Napolean never said anything contradictory to other statements he made and he never said something to simply gain political approval 
Napolean was a pragmatist above all else if saying he was a Christian helped his ambitions he would say he was a Christian.
Like most things regarding Napolean, you can find a quote to support any position you want on him.
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 11:41 pm
(July 27, 2023 at 10:13 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Or maybe he is using chatgbt for stupid arguments to piss atheists off?
He's doing the forum equivelant of gish gallop
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RE: History: The Iniquitous Anti-Christian French Revolution.
July 27, 2023 at 11:49 pm
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A forum being the very worst place to try one. Doesn't work when there are enough people with a broad base of knowledge to address claims as fast as or even faster than they can be made.
Guys in the wrong place, using the wrong method. He'll never snatch enough souls to rescue his murderous god in his own eyes at this rate.
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