Deesse23 Wrote:So why does he choose to die on this hill? He just could accept evolution, be still in accordance with RCC, and then focus on all the other hills he wants to die on. One problem less, once cause less for cognitive dissonance.

In his defense, it is more honest not to accept evolution when you are a Christian because evolution is not compatible with Christianity. It debunks it.

Nishant Xavier Wrote:The day you believe you are going to give birth to actual apes in the future, I will believe that you are an Ape. Not before that.

Evolution does not claim that one species can give birth to another. Just like a Latin-speaking woman can not give birth to a Spanish-speaking child although Spanish evolved from Latin language.

(July 27, 2023 at 11:18 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Also, you're a Genocide Defender too, Helios, until you clearly condemn the Ongoing Genocide and Persecution of 360 MN Christians.

You have no right to call me a pedo defender and that's a vicious lie, malicious slander and outright defamation on your part after I condemned Pedophilia as a Mortal Sin worthy of Eternal Hell-Fire and a Civil Crime meriting legal punishment.

You just want a good supply of children for upper level gang members to rape. 

God, your gang leader, loves watching child rape since he raped a young virgin, right Xavier?

Pathetic and silly. The Blessed Virgin Mary first gave Her Consent to Almighty God. Secondly, it was a Spiritual Union between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Virgin Mary, the Immaculate Mother of God. Did the Pharisees teach you to say filthy things of Her as they've written in their Talmud? Almighty God is strict in Judging those who speak evilly of His Most Pure Mother.

Now, here's what I was talking about.

Genesis 1: God creates the First Animal Pair of each Kind, which then reproduces according to its own kind. God then creates Mankind - Humanity - Adam and Eve, and this in His Own Divine and Special Image, which is what the Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists are tryign to rob you of, your innate God-Given Dignity, as a Man or Woman Created in His Image, by telling you that you are an Ape and a Son of a Monkey or Daughter of a Monkey Instead:

"20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

When God says, "Let Us", rather than let me, that's also a reference to the Trinity, and thus the Divinity of Christ, which is already clear in Genesis.

(July 28, 2023 at 7:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Pathetic and silly. The Blessed Virgin Mary first gave Her Consent to Almighty God. Secondly, it was a Spiritual Union between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Virgin Mary, the Immaculate Mother of God. Did the Pharisees teach you to say filthy things of Her as they've written in their Talmud? Almighty God is strict in Judging those who speak evilly of His Most Pure Mother.

Now, here's what I was talking about.

Genesis 1: God creates the First Animal Pair of each Kind, which then reproduces according to its own kind. God then creates Mankind - Humanity - Adam and Eve, and this in His Own Divine and Special Image, which is what the Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists are tryign to rob you of, your innate God-Given Dignity, as a Man or Woman Created in His Image, by telling you that you are an Ape and a Son of a Monkey or Daughter of a Monkey Instead:

"20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

When God says, "Let Us", rather than let me, that's also a reference to the Trinity, and thus the Divinity of Christ, which is already clear in Genesis.

Right because women in that time could easily say no about anything.

You’re pathetic

(July 28, 2023 at 6:43 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: The day you believe you are going to give birth to actual apes in the future, I will believe that you are an Ape. Not before that. Not even you Evolutionists believe hat because you know that will never happen. And likewise we also know, no matter how many millions of years back you go, or forward into the future, humans will give birth to humans, and apes will give birth to apes. That's how God made it since the Very Beginning. The very word re-production should show you this, as does the first chapter of Genesis. Each being or species reproduces according to its own kind. God created the First Couple, or First Pair, of every animal kind, and these then reproduced and sustained their kind. The answer to the question of what "came first: the chicken or the egg", which is a dilemma because contingent eggs come from contingent chickens, but contingent chickens themselves came from eggs in the first place: the Answer is a Loving, Almighty God created the first chickens, and these then produced eggs etc. And the same for other animals, which however does not exclude that certain species could be more closely related than earlier thought.

Just two things:

1. Every human female who has given birth - without exception - has given birth to an ape. 

2. Oviparity (egg laying) dates back at least 340 million years ago, while chickens evolved from jungle foul roughly 60 000 years ago. So, the egg came first (and by a considerable margin).

These are brute facts, as real a fist in the face and not subject to rational debate.

Boru

(July 28, 2023 at 6:13 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(July 28, 2023 at 5:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: RCC has not officially accepted evolution but has rather allowed Catholics to accept it if they want. RCC has also rejected the evolution of man as the pope noted in Humani Generis.

So why does he choose to die on this hill? He just could accept evolution, be still in accordance with RCC, and then focus on all the other hills he wants to die on. One problem less, once cause less for cognitive dissonance.

(July 28, 2023 at 5:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Nishant is in pain which is why he joined this forum. On a subconscious level, he can not stand all that crap he has in his head that contradicts reality and he can not write apologetics for the pedophile organization known as RCC anymore. You can see that all this Catholicism has driven him insane.
This is all his cry for help.

Still dont get it.  
If he needs his cognitive dissonance silenced, why go to an atheist website and spam it with BS? All he can expect is backlash, which is probably frustrating. Why not go to some RCC website and get your views reinforced. Why does he think going out and getting his ass kicked will potentially reinforce his position? I would rather have more doubts, if i had some introspection after posting here and see there is much more to be dissonant about than i originally thought. Is it the persecution complex? The need to feel christ-like and be crucified in an atheist forum? Is it that kind of perverted drive?

On this forum, he seems more interested in being anti-atheism than pro-Catholic. But that's only because he loves us.

Quote:The day you believe you are going to give birth to actual apes in the future, I will believe that you are an Ape. Not before that. Not even you Evolutionists believe hat because you know that will never happen. And likewise we also know, no matter how many millions of years back you go, or forward into the future, humans will give birth to humans, and apes will give birth to apes.

Humans are actual apes thus this whole point is moot. (Apes producing apes and humans are apes thus apes produce apes)

Quote: That's how God made it since the Very Beginning. The very word re-production should show you this, as does the first chapter of Genesis. Each being or species reproduces according to its own kind. God created the First Couple, or First Pair, of every animal kind, and these then reproduced and sustained their kind.

Nope, things evolved and Genesis is a myth and there was no first pair. And if by kind you Apes producing apes and humans are apes thus apes produce apes then you are correct as evolution states. 

Quote: The answer to the question of what "came first: the chicken or the egg", which is a dilemma because contingent eggs come from contingent chickens, but contingent chickens themselves came from eggs in the first place: the Answer is a Loving, Almighty God created the first chickens, and these then produced eggs etc. And the same for other animals, which however does not exclude that certain species could be more closely related than earlier thought.

Eggs existed before chickens and there is no evidence of god only myths.

(July 28, 2023 at 7:15 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 28, 2023 at 6:43 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: The day you believe you are going to give birth to actual apes in the future, I will believe that you are an Ape. Not before that. Not even you Evolutionists believe hat because you know that will never happen. And likewise we also know, no matter how many millions of years back you go, or forward into the future, humans will give birth to humans, and apes will give birth to apes. That's how God made it since the Very Beginning. The very word re-production should show you this, as does the first chapter of Genesis. Each being or species reproduces according to its own kind. God created the First Couple, or First Pair, of every animal kind, and these then reproduced and sustained their kind. The answer to the question of what "came first: the chicken or the egg", which is a dilemma because contingent eggs come from contingent chickens, but contingent chickens themselves came from eggs in the first place: the Answer is a Loving, Almighty God created the first chickens, and these then produced eggs etc. And the same for other animals, which however does not exclude that certain species could be more closely related than earlier thought.

Just two things:

1. Every human female who has given birth - without exception - has given birth to an ape. 

2. Oviparity (egg laying) dates back at least 340 million years ago, while chickens evolved from jungle foul roughly 60 000 years ago. So, the egg came first (and by a considerable margin).

These are brute facts, as real a fist in the face and not subject to rational debate.

Boru

Indeed (Apes producing apes and humans are apes thus apes produce apes)

(July 28, 2023 at 5:44 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Here is Wiki on Silvapethicus now: "Sivapithecus (lit. 'Shiva's Ape') (syn: Ramapithecus) is a genus of extinct apes. Fossil remains of animals now assigned to this genus, dated from 12.2 million years old[1] in the Miocene, have been found since the 19th century in the Siwalik Hills of the Indian subcontinent as well as in Kutch. Any one of the species in this genus may have been the ancestor to the modern orangutans.

Some early discoveries were given the separate names Ramapithecus (Rama's Ape) and Bramapithecus (Brahma's Ape), and were thought to be possible ancestors of humans." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivapithecus

Yup, these were not ancestors to humans, but rather ancestors to orangutans. I pity those who insist on believing these Apes are their fathers.

Your incomprehension is painfully obvious.

(July 28, 2023 at 7:04 am)h4ym4n Wrote:

(July 28, 2023 at 7:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Pathetic and silly. The Blessed Virgin Mary first gave Her Consent to Almighty God. Secondly, it was a Spiritual Union between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Virgin Mary, the Immaculate Mother of God. Did the Pharisees teach you to say filthy things of Her as they've written in their Talmud? Almighty God is strict in Judging those who speak evilly of His Most Pure Mother.

Now, here's what I was talking about.

Genesis 1: God creates the First Animal Pair of each Kind, which then reproduces according to its own kind. God then creates Mankind - Humanity - Adam and Eve, and this in His Own Divine and Special Image, which is what the Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists are tryign to rob you of, your innate God-Given Dignity, as a Man or Woman Created in His Image, by telling you that you are an Ape and a Son of a Monkey or Daughter of a Monkey Instead:

"20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

When God says, "Let Us", rather than let me, that's also a reference to the Trinity, and thus the Divinity of Christ, which is already clear in Genesis.

Right because women in that time could easily say no about anything.

You’re pathetic

Actually the Dumb God ™ in Genesis didn't know what to make as a mate  for Adam. 
So they had tryouts. It says so right there in Genesis. And it involved bestiality as well as whatever fucking birds would be called. 

Genesis 2:18-20
The Lord God said "It is not good for man to be alone. I will make a suitable partner for him". So the Lord God formed out of the ground various 
wild animals and various birds of the air and he brought them to the man to see what he would call them; whatever the man called each of them would be it's name. 
The man gave names to all the cattle, all the birds of the air, and all the wild animals; but none proved to be the suitable partner for the man. 

Genesis was written by Jews. They did not ever buy into the Trinity. You're dead wrong Pissant. 
The Jews (until Isaiah) were polytheistic however. Yahweh had a wife. The Heavenly Host were all divine, in Jewish culture. That did not make them gods. 
That subject these days, ie "other divine beings" in that culture is the subject of somewhat intense research and thus the subject of a number of recent PhD theses, in Ancient Semitic Languages and Cultures. 

"Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionsists"
BTW, that's a psycho disordered paranoid personality if there ever was one.