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Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 3:25 am
(January 19, 2024 at 6:38 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(January 14, 2024 at 12:00 am)snowtracks Wrote: They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: *

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*Big Bang Theory: Evolution of Our Universe - Universe Today

You do understand that our current model of the big bang doesn't posit a creation of matter, just the expansion of the vast majority (there are spontaneously created particles) of it from an infinitely dense singularity to the state it's in* today.

*And look at the absolute state of it! Shocking
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 6:50 am
(January 23, 2024 at 3:25 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 19, 2024 at 6:38 pm)GUBU Wrote: You do understand that our current model of the big bang doesn't posit a creation of matter, just the expansion of the vast majority (there are spontaneously created particles) of it from an infinitely dense singularity to the state it's in* today.

*And look at the absolute state of it! Shocking
Philosophical statement - If anything now exists, then something must be eternal or if not eternal then what exists came out of nothing.

Philosophical statement - It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.

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#143
RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 9:16 am
(January 23, 2024 at 3:25 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 19, 2024 at 6:38 pm)GUBU Wrote: You do understand that our current model of the big bang doesn't posit a creation of matter, just the expansion of the vast majority (there are spontaneously created particles) of it from an infinitely dense singularity to the state it's in* today.

*And look at the absolute state of it! Shocking
Philosophical statement - If anything now exists, then something must be eternal or if not eternal then what exists came out of nothing.

And what does your meaningless string of words prove? Well aside from ghe fact that you have trouble understanding anything.
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#144
RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 11:54 am
(January 23, 2024 at 6:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 23, 2024 at 3:25 am)snowtracks Wrote: Philosophical statement - If anything now exists, then something must be eternal or if not eternal then what exists came out of nothing.
Philosophical statement - It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
I think this is the best form of “argument” that can be brought up here. Make fun of the post.  Sure, it ignores the point being made, but at least it’s mildly humorous and not mean like other responses. <cough>GUBU</cough>

Frankly, snowtracks is right. Everything has to come from something. If there is a thing that doesn’t come from something else, then that thing must be eternal (meaning that it, um, doesn’t come from, um, something else.) [trying to channel the great Bob Newhart there]

Mocking and abuse don’t really get around that. They just take the conversation back to junior high.

Do you agree? Check Yes [ ] or No [ ]  Hilarious
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#145
RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 12:19 pm (This post was last modified: January 23, 2024 at 12:20 pm by Angrboda.)
(January 23, 2024 at 11:54 am)SimpleCaveman Wrote:
(January 23, 2024 at 6:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Philosophical statement - It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
I think this is the best form of “argument” that can be brought up here. Make fun of the post.  Sure, it ignores the point being made, but at least it’s mildly humorous and not mean like other responses. <cough>GUBU</cough>

Frankly, snowtracks is right. Everything has to come from something. If there is a thing that doesn’t come from something else, then that thing must be eternal (meaning that it, um, doesn’t come from, um, something else.) [trying to channel the great Bob Newhart there]

Mocking and abuse don’t really get around that. They just take the conversation back to junior high.

Do you agree? Check Yes [ ] or No [ ]  Hilarious

Well, first of all, snowtracks isn't necessarily right. But more than that you need to understand the history here. Snowtracks is a regular who occasionally stops by to shitpost and then leave again. He's not here to discuss, and he's not bright enough for a meaningful discussion even if he was. While mocking may not be appropriate in the general case, you ignore that there are exceptions to the rule.

Btw, that's not what eternal means.
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#146
RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 12:30 pm
(January 23, 2024 at 11:54 am)SimpleCaveman Wrote:
(January 23, 2024 at 6:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Philosophical statement - It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
I think this is the best form of “argument” that can be brought up here. Make fun of the post.  Sure, it ignores the point being made, but at least it’s mildly humorous and not mean like other responses. <cough>GUBU</cough>

Frankly, snowtracks is right. Everything has to come from something. If there is a thing that doesn’t come from something else, then that thing must be eternal (meaning that it, um, doesn’t come from, um, something else.) [trying to channel the great Bob Newhart there]

Mocking and abuse don’t really get around that. They just take the conversation back to junior high.

Do you agree? Check Yes [ ] or No [ ]  Hilarious

My reply doesn’t ’ignore the point being made’ (because snow isn’t making a point, merely regurgitating an unsubstantiated claim), nor is it abusive.

 I do, however, happily admit to the charge of mockery.

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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 12:43 pm
[ ] yes [ ] no

Are we back in middle school?
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 12:51 pm (This post was last modified: January 23, 2024 at 12:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I agree with Tracks.  Gods either came from nothing, or gods came from something that was eternal.

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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 1:24 pm (This post was last modified: January 23, 2024 at 1:25 pm by Nay_Sayer.)
(January 23, 2024 at 12:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: [] yes [ ] no

Are we back in middle school?

[✔] yes [ ] no
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 23, 2024 at 1:29 pm
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