(February 11, 2024 at 12:39 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I honestly have not been paying extra attention. Are any democrats running against Biden?

Two. Marianne Williamson, an author of self-help books, and Dean Phillips, a congressperson from Minnesota. Both of them together are barely a blip on the radar.

Boru

I thought Williamson dropped out. I could be wrong.

(February 11, 2024 at 11:57 am)Angrboda Wrote: I think I could vote for Nikki Haley if she can win the nomination.  I hedged my bets this month, donating to both Biden and Haley.  I'll see how well she does in the next few primaries before contributing more.

Her flat denial of America's race issues DQs her for me.

(February 11, 2024 at 1:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 11, 2024 at 11:57 am)Angrboda Wrote: I think I could vote for Nikki Haley if she can win the nomination.  I hedged my bets this month, donating to both Biden and Haley.  I'll see how well she does in the next few primaries before contributing more.

Her flat denial of America's race issues DQs her for me.

It's pretty much de rigeur for any potential Republican candidate these days. I don't think I'd agree with many of her policies, but I'd rather her than Trump win the Republican nomination. Haley lies like a rug, trying to be all things to all people, but I don't think she'd be a bad president.

(February 11, 2024 at 2:11 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(February 11, 2024 at 1:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Her flat denial of America's race issues DQs her for me.

It's pretty much de rigeur for any potential Republican candidate these days.  I don't think I'd agree with many of her policies, but I'd rather her than Trump win the Republican nomination.  Haley lies like a rug, trying to be all things to all people, but I don't think she'd be a bad president.

I think she's right on much foreign policy, and sure, she's better than Trump. I think there's a pretty big gap between "better than Trump" and "good enough".

(February 11, 2024 at 1:10 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I thought Williamson dropped out.  I could be wrong.

So she did. Mea culpa.

Boru

(February 11, 2024 at 2:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 11, 2024 at 2:11 pm)Angrboda Wrote: It's pretty much de rigeur for any potential Republican candidate these days.  I don't think I'd agree with many of her policies, but I'd rather her than Trump win the Republican nomination.  Haley lies like a rug, trying to be all things to all people, but I don't think she'd be a bad president.

I think she's right on foreign policy, and sure, she's better than Trump. I think there's a pretty big gap between "better than Trump" and "good enough".

I don't think this is a good year for purism or red lines. Biden's emphasis on bipartisanship and compromise is right on. Not supporting Haley is unintentionally supporting Trump.

(February 11, 2024 at 3:03 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(February 11, 2024 at 2:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think she's right on foreign policy, and sure, she's better than Trump. I think there's a pretty big gap between "better than Trump" and "good enough".

I don't think this is a good year for purism or red lines.  Biden's emphasis on bipartisanship and compromise is right on.  Not supporting Haley is unintentionally supporting Trump.

I'm not voting in the GOP primary, so my opinion won't affect anything. In the general, I probably won't vote for either major candidate. Texas will go Republican no matter what, I think.

(February 11, 2024 at 4:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 11, 2024 at 3:03 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I don't think this is a good year for purism or red lines.  Biden's emphasis on bipartisanship and compromise is right on.  Not supporting Haley is unintentionally supporting Trump.

I'm not voting in the GOP primary, so my opinion won't affect anything. In the general, I probably won't vote for either major candidate. Texas will go Republican no matter what, I think.

You can support Haley in other ways. Your vote isn't your only resource. To say your opinion won't affect anything is an exaggeration. It already has. (Btw, Texas is an open primary state, so you could vote in the Republican primary. As to Trump or Haley, if you don't participate, you've still made a choice.)

(February 11, 2024 at 4:25 pm)Angrboda Wrote: You can support Haley in other ways.  Your vote isn't your only resource.  To say your opinion won't affect anything is an exaggeration.  It already has.  (Btw, Texas is an open primary state, so you could vote in the Republican primary.  As to Trump or Haley, if you don't participate, you've still made a choice.)

Haley won't win here. As far a supporting her in other ways, I won't support anyone who denies the racial problems we have.

As for Trump/Haley, you're right. By not choosing either, I choose neither. They're both failures, for different reasons.