(July 9, 2024 at 12:40 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 12:17 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Just because I have controversial viewpoints doesn't mean that I'm a troll. I'm not here to troll.

Your choice of language makes you seem like a troll.

How so?

(July 9, 2024 at 12:27 pm)Disagreeable Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 12:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That’s exactly what a troll would say.

Boru

It's also exactly what somebody being honest about their not trolling would say . . .

That’s a self-negating statement. You’re a troll and trolls are, by their very nature, dishonest.

Boru

(July 9, 2024 at 1:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 12:27 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: It's also exactly what somebody being honest about their not trolling would say . . .

That’s a self-negating statement. You’re a troll and trolls are, by their very nature, dishonest.

Boru

Well, I'm not a troll. The point is that I'm going to say I'm not whether I am or not. If I'm not a troll (which is true, I'm not a troll), then it's not as if I'm going to claim to be a troll. You don't learn that I'm a troll simply because I say I'm not one. I'm gonna say that regardless. I'm not here to troll. I'm here to say what I think and discuss with others.

(July 9, 2024 at 2:09 pm)Disagreeable Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 1:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That’s a self-negating statement. You’re a troll and trolls are, by their very nature, dishonest.

Boru

Well, I'm not a troll. The point is that I'm going to say I'm not whether I am or not. If I'm not a troll (which is true, I'm not a troll), then it's not as if I'm going to claim to be a troll. You don't learn that I'm a troll simply because I say I'm not one. I'm gonna say that regardless. I'm not here to troll. I'm here to say what I think and discuss with others.

Have you ever seen one of those interrogations on YT, where they interview someone they suspect to have murdered someone? Have you ever wondered why its always the actual murderers who dont get enraged by being accused of murder, but who are calmly trying to talk their way out over the course of several hours?

(July 9, 2024 at 2:33 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 2:09 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Well, I'm not a troll. The point is that I'm going to say I'm not whether I am or not. If I'm not a troll (which is true, I'm not a troll), then it's not as if I'm going to claim to be a troll. You don't learn that I'm a troll simply because I say I'm not one. I'm gonna say that regardless. I'm not here to troll. I'm here to say what I think and discuss with others.

Have you ever seen one of those interrogations on YT, where they interview someone they suspect to have murdered someone? Have you ever wondered why its always the actual murderers who dont get enraged by being accused of murder, but who are calmly trying to talk their way out over the course of several hours?

I'm not a very emotional person. I'm not going to get enraged at being wrongly accused. Doesn't mean I'm a troll. Again, there will be both people who deny a wrongdoing who are honest and people who deny a wrongdoing and are dishonest. But you're deemed not guilty without any evidence to the contrary.

Apparently he's not bright enough to use the link explaining what "*plonk*" means. That just confirms mine was a good decision.

Plonk? Again, Thump, what do you mean?

Meanwhile, to the topic:

Quote:The July 8 Russian missile strikes likely employed a new and noteworthy tactic to maximize the damage from such strike series. Former Ukrainian Air Forces Spokesperson Colonel Yuriy Ihnat stated following the strikes on July 8 that Russian forces are constantly improving their reconnaissance and strike drone capabilities and the efficacy of both cruise and ballistic missiles, noting that during the July 8 strike Russian cruise missiles flew at "extremely low" altitudes.[19] Ihnat noted that in some cases, Ukrainian air defense forces had to attempt to intercept cruise missiles flying as low as 50 meters above the ground. Ukrainian air defenses have historically had high shoot-down rates for certain types of cruise missiles, particularly the older Kh-101 variety, but Ihnat's suggestion of Russian forces launching cruise missile strikes at such low altitudes indicates that Russian forces may have innovated their tactics and/or technology somewhat to inflict maximum damage on Ukrainian infrastructure by giving Ukrainian air defense practically no time to respond until the missile is already within close range of the ground.[20] Ihnat noted that Russian forces are reducing the electromagnetic signatures of the drones until the last possible moment to prevent their detection by Ukrainian forces, which Ihnat noted means that by the time Ukrainian forces detect the drone, the missile the drone was guiding could already be close to the target point.[21] Russia has consistently adapted the strike packages it uses against Ukraine to take advantage of Ukraine's air defense shortages, and the July 8 strikes represent a new and adapted strike package that Ukraine will need to learn to respond to with requisite levels of Western-provided air defense systems.[22]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgro...ct-updates

Fortunately, we have more SAMs on the way.

(July 9, 2024 at 2:34 pm)Disagreeable Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 2:33 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Have you ever seen one of those interrogations on YT, where they interview someone they suspect to have murdered someone? Have you ever wondered why its always the actual murderers who dont get enraged by being accused of murder, but who are calmly trying to talk their way out over the course of several hours?

I'm not a very emotional person. I'm not going to get enraged at being wrongly accused. Doesn't mean I'm a troll. Again, there will be both people who deny a wrongdoing who are honest and people who deny a wrongdoing and are dishonest. But you're deemed not guilty without any evidence to the contrary.

We are not in a courtroom, we are in a forum, and we have a troll, and that troll is you. Everybody knows it, including you. I am wondering where all those went who were worth dealing with. Is losers like you all the troll farm has left? Is it lack of effort or lack of competence, which made you so transparent?

(July 9, 2024 at 3:01 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(July 9, 2024 at 2:34 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: I'm not a very emotional person. I'm not going to get enraged at being wrongly accused. Doesn't mean I'm a troll. Again, there will be both people who deny a wrongdoing who are honest and people who deny a wrongdoing and are dishonest. But you're deemed not guilty without any evidence to the contrary.

We are not in a courtroom, we are in a forum, and we have a troll, and that troll is you. Everybody knows it, including you. I am wondering where all those went who were worth dealing with. Is losers like you all the troll farm has left? Is it lack of effort or lack of competence, which made you so transparent?

I'm not a troll. Not going to admit that I am one when I'm not one. What do you expect a non-troll to say? That they're a troll? That makes no sense.