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I believe the Bible is God's Word
#61
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 10:38 am)snowtracks Wrote: The point: there was a creation event.

Yes, with no god necessary.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#62
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 12:22 am)snowtracks Wrote: Hawking wrote this about the provenance of the universe in book: A Brief History of Time
"Why did the universe start out with so nearly the critical rate of expansion that separates models that recollapse from those that go on expanding forever, that even now, 10 thousand million years later, it is still expanding at nearly the critical rate? If the rate of expansion one second after the Big Bang had been smaller by even one part in 100 thousand million million, the universe would have collapsed before it ever reached its present size." *

If you can show the rate of expansion could have had a different value, there's a Nobel waiting for you. And if the rate of expansion had been slightly faster, we still get a universe.
If faster, galaxies & stars wouldn't have formed.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#63
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 2:58 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you can show the rate of expansion could have had a different value, there's a Nobel waiting for you. And if the rate of expansion had been slightly faster, we still get a universe.
If faster, galaxies & stars wouldn't have formed.
So what?
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 2:58 pm)snowtracks Wrote: If faster, galaxies & stars wouldn't have formed.
So what?
Help. Will someone please help?
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#65
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

Hilarious
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#66
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

The best help I can offer you is to suggest that you expand your reading on cosmology beyond out-of-context snippets that you think support the deliberate, willful ‘creation’ of the universe.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

I've not got enough crayons and hand puppets...nor medication to help you.
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#68
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

I've tried but you keep rejecting the light and truth of FSM.

Thoughts and Prayers. RAmen
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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#69
RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

1/10 my friend. What is it that made trolls so embarrasingly lazy these days? Why do you waste your time to troll and then dont even really try? Its so sad to see you fail so miserably.
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:06 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: So what?
Help. Will someone please help?

Sure. Deesse23 probably means that a universe without stars and galaxies is still a universe. Since you're so knowledgeable about cosmoslogy and can apparently follow the math, how much faster would the initial expansion have to be for stars and galaxies not to form? A citation is fine, I never got past freshman calculus.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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