The boyfriend ordered us mail-in ballots a little while ago. Not sure when they're supposed to arrive.

^ So. Much. Wrong.

(September 20, 2024 at 8:42 pm)Silver Wrote: Lady Gaga's dad endorses Trump

Germanotta continued: “I’m not voting for people. I mean, look, Donald, yeah, he’s abrasive, okay, but, you know, he’s a patriot, and his policies are there. All right, they’re on target for me anyway.

“I’m into low fuel and food prices – low interest rates,” he added. “Good economy, pro-police. Let the police do their job, law and order…Don’t let these protesters burn down our cities and the small businesses. Keep the jobs here in the United States.”

“I endorse Donald Trump. I endorse his policies. Freedom of speech. Thank you Elon Musk. That’s all I’ve got to say,” he concluded.



Ouch. I imagine lots of fans are going to expect to hear from Gaga herself.

"I'm the father of a pop star, my opinion on politics matters."

(September 17, 2024 at 12:02 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: To be fair to we the people, they voted hillary.  Just think...harris is on track to beat hillarys record or win the office.  I can't think of any better way to sum up the state of american democracy and the value of our votes.

And you got to remember too that Hilary Clinton won by c. 3.5 million votes, despite starting at >-10 million votes due to the republitraitor party's long standing election tactic of mass racist voter disenfranchisement.

(September 17, 2024 at 1:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 17, 2024 at 1:00 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: People didn't elect trump to the office, he clearly lost and if will of the people would be respected then it would be reflected by him becoming just another loser. At least from my pov he was handed power by some shady group no matter how legitimate EC is in Americans view.

Your POV is wrong. There was no ‘shady group’ involved. Trump was handed power based on the rules laid down in the US Constitution. Outmoded rules that no longer fulfill their original function, to be sure, but rules just the same.

If Trump had been denied the Presidency after winning the EC, that would have been unconstitutional. The American Founders never intended for their new country to be ruled by ‘the will of the people’.

Boru

The sole reason for the EC was to maintain the legality of southern slavery by ensuring the popular will could be thwarted. It was always meant to be anti-democratic and pro-oligarch.

(September 21, 2024 at 6:53 am)Pat Mustard Wrote:

(September 17, 2024 at 1:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Your POV is wrong. There was no ‘shady group’ involved. Trump was handed power based on the rules laid down in the US Constitution. Outmoded rules that no longer fulfill their original function, to be sure, but rules just the same.

If Trump had been denied the Presidency after winning the EC, that would have been unconstitutional. The American Founders never intended for their new country to be ruled by ‘the will of the people’.

Boru

The sole reason for the EC was to maintain the legality of southern slavery by ensuring the popular will could be thwarted.  It was always meant to be anti-democratic and pro-oligarch.

That’s pretty much what I’ve been saying all along. Thank you.

Boru

(September 21, 2024 at 6:53 am)Pat Mustard Wrote:

(September 17, 2024 at 1:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Your POV is wrong. There was no ‘shady group’ involved. Trump was handed power based on the rules laid down in the US Constitution. Outmoded rules that no longer fulfill their original function, to be sure, but rules just the same.

If Trump had been denied the Presidency after winning the EC, that would have been unconstitutional. The American Founders never intended for their new country to be ruled by ‘the will of the people’.

Boru

The sole reason for the EC was to maintain the legality of southern slavery by ensuring the popular will could be thwarted.  It was always meant to be anti-democratic and pro-oligarch.

If such was it's purpose then it only means that it was shit from the very beginning.

(September 21, 2024 at 7:12 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:

(September 21, 2024 at 6:53 am)Pat Mustard Wrote: The sole reason for the EC was to maintain the legality of southern slavery by ensuring the popular will could be thwarted.  It was always meant to be anti-democratic and pro-oligarch.

If such was it's purpose then it only means that it was shit from the very beginning.

No argument.

Boru