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Stupid things religious people say
RE: Stupid things religious people say
There's a sucker baptized every minute.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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God can create a whole universe, but somehow needs money??
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(March 26, 2025 at 4:15 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: God can create a whole universe,  but somehow needs money??
Well how about, god has limitless power, but needed a day off to rest after 6 days? It's in the bible.
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Premier Christianity has published an article that finally explains what the devil is and how to get away from him - which is: don't live near shopping malls, don't fill your refrigerator with ice cream, don't look at porn, and sell your stocks.

Quote:What Christians get wrong about Satan

Have you noticed how, despite living in an increasingly materialist world, the spiritual realm keeps breaking through?

Firstly, his name is not Lucifer. That word doesn’t appear in the original Hebrew and Greek Bible. It shows up in a much later Latin translation and then disappears from modern translations for good reason. A lucifer – or light-bearer – is obviously not what the devil is. That Latin translation calls Jesus a light-bearer. Creation is a light-bearer. Christians are light-bearers. Technically, it’s you, I and Jesus who are the true lucifers!

His name isn’t Satan or Devil, either. Those are just English names for the Hebrew ha-satan (pronounced ha-sah-tahn) and the Greek diabolos. If we wanted to give the evil one an English name that roughly equates, we’d call him Accuser-Adversary.

Many Christians have a sense that he’s permanently perched on their shoulders, personally tempting and torturing them around the clock. But nothing in the Bible suggests Accuser-Adversary is omnipresent. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. Revelation 12:10 says he spends his days darting back and forth between heaven and earth, accusing Christians before the courtroom of heaven. Luckily, Christ our advocate defends us with his very life.

Most Christians have almost certainly never had a face-to-face encounter with the devil. If you do the maths, in a world with 8 billion people, over the course of a century Accuser-Adversary could only spend 0.39 seconds with each of us. In all likelihood, most humans will go their entire lives without ever encountering him at all.

But that is not to say we will not encounter the lies, accusations and life-destroying systems he has been designing and detonating in human hearts since the beginning of time.

You can’t walk ten feet without encountering a dozen of Accuser-Adversary’s schemes in everything from shopping addiction to the promise of viral internet fame.

It helps to know his game plan. Accuser-Adversary, like all free will spirits – including our own – wants to be God. To accomplish his mission, he tries to establish strongholds in people’s lives, virtual pillboxes from which to snipe, “steal…kill and destroy” (John 10:10) and launch further sallies to expand his territory.

The devil only gets a stronghold after first establishing a foothold – getting a foot in the door of your life and then ratcheting it open. We see this foothold-to-stronghold dynamic play out across the Bible and human history. Self-will becomes rebellion. Anger becomes violence. Hatred becomes murder. Distraction becomes idol worship. Unforgiveness becomes bitterness. Lust becomes adultery. Guilt becomes condemnation. Fear becomes paralysis. Conceit becomes pride. False teaching becomes apostasy.

Here are some practical examples. It’s harder to fall into a stronghold of dairy gluttony if you don’t stock your freezer full of Häagen-Dazs. If you struggle with a shopping addiction, do what we did and move an hour away from the nearest shopping centre. It’s difficult to fall into a stronghold of wealth accumulation if you fire your financial advisor. If drugs have a grip on your body, living in a crack house won’t help. It’s significantly easier to not profit off the poor if you sell your stocks, bonds and rental properties. I’ve never encountered porn on a mobile phone for the simple reason that I don’t own one.

https://www.premierchristianity.com/feat...49.article
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(March 24, 2025 at 4:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

There is no 'pro-life movement'. What you have is a pro-birth movement.

Boru

Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.

"Pro-life" is probably just a nice way of saying, "anti-child killer" to be honest.
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(March 24, 2025 at 5:41 am)Sheldon Wrote: I agree, they're not pro-life, they're anti choice. I am pro life, that's why I don't want to enslave women, by taking away their bodily autonomy. Least of all to enforce the morality of archaic bronze age superstitions, and to grant those rights to an microscopic clump of insentient cells.


Semantics; opposing the "choice" to kill your child and thus allow it to continue to develop and live is "pro-life."

We are not interested in enslaving women; rather we are opposed to the idea that not all humans are granted the most basic of human right - life - and that we can pick and choose what humans do and deserve rights based on their physical traits.

It's interesting you believe the pro-life stance is a religious one despite the number of atheists anti-abortionists - that's certainly a bit of a self taddle on atheism's inability to provide a moral framework, but the reality is that it is simply a pro-science, pro-life, pro-reason stance and nothing more.

Dehumanizing language is not becoming - those "microscopic clump of insentient cells" remain a human all the same - and I've know quite a few bad humans who engaged in the same language about groups they deemed inferior.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(March 24, 2025 at 6:36 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

Aren’t you just saying you are just pro forced birth?

You don’t give a fuck about after the birth especially if the birth is something other than white person.


We get who you are theWHITEmarten.

Nope.

Yikes.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
Quote:Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.
Nah it means you are pro-forced birth anti female autonomy and you don't give a damn about the fetus it's just an emotional cudgel to strip women of their autonomy



Quote:"Pro-life" is probably just a nice way of saying, "anti-child killer" to be honest
Nope it means pro forced birth and anti female autonomy.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(March 26, 2025 at 11:54 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: "Pro-life" is probably just a nice way of saying, "anti-child killer" to be honest.

This is what "pro-life" means

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
Quote:Semantics; opposing the "choice" to kill your child and thus allow it to continue to develop and live is "pro-life."
Nope it has nothing to do with being prop-life it's simply pro-control and anti-choice 



Quote:We are not interested in enslaving women; rather we are opposed to the idea that not all humans are granted the most basic of human right - life - and that we can pick and choose what humans do and deserve rights based on their physical traits.
Actually you are you don't give a damn about the fetus it's just an emotional cudgel used to strip women of their right bodily autonomy and turn them into second class citizens and incubators  



Quote:It's interesting you believe the pro-life stance is a religious one despite the number of atheists anti-abortionists - that's certainly a bit of a self taddle on atheism's inability to provide a moral framework, but the reality is that it is simply a pro-science, pro-life, pro-reason stance and nothing more.
Non sequitur the fact atheists can different opinions on abortion is in no way a point against atheism. Nope it's the Anti-science, Anti-choice, Anti-reason stance and nothing more.


Quote:Dehumanizing language is not becoming - those "microscopic clump of insentient cells" remain a human all the same - and I've know quite a few bad humans who engaged in the same language about groups they deemed inferior.
The fact the clumps genetically human is irrelevant and this has nothing racism or any of the other false comparisons you want to make
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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