(March 27, 2025 at 10:30 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

Quote:"The number of people killed over the last two centuries in the name of secular ideologies has dwarfed by magnitudes those killed in the name of religion,

The fact anyone is killed in name of religion moots this point

Honest question, do you suffer from a certain level of autism? 

The reason I asked is that statement was specifically in quotes and followed by a self-aware statement that it was a stupid remark.

Just be upfront about these things to avoid problems with communication, because these are very simple social clues that - like English grammar - is flying past you and leading you to start arguing against imaginary windmills. 

Otherwise... well, I know you feel oh so gallant riding towards that swastika in the sky because I too once wore my grandfather's armor into battle... but it's just a windmill my dude.

(March 27, 2025 at 10:38 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 27, 2025 at 10:05 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: I do.

I don't think of them as political tools for my ideology to be manipulated as an emotional trump card in an argument.

P.o.s.

So, you are going with - they deserved it?

Let's hope no woman who is unlucky enough to be in your life ever suffers such.  It's obvious they have suffered enough.

Go ahead and explain how you got, "they deserved it" out of that.

I can only assume that's what *you* believe and are trying to project on me, because that was one hell of a swing and a miss lass.

Quote:If a fetus was only at a state of having human DNA you would have a solid point; sperm and eggs for example both have human DNA and yet are not considered a human, nor are hair floccules or skin flakes.

What separates a zygote and the later stages of fetal development from either sexual reproduction cells or the various components that make a human is that they have begun a roughly 9 month long process known as gestation; this process, unless either interrupted by outside trauma or genetic defect, will result in the birth of the infant and they will then begin their lifelong journey of developing and aging we all must go through.

Yup and until that process is complete they aren't yet fully human this isn't a counter to my point 

Quote:"Fully human" - define this concept, because you cannot mean that in a scientific sense.

Actually and I already stated what it means and it's fully backed by science 

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Quote:"Merely having human DNA is not enough to be fully human."

Yup it doesn't 

Quote:Go ahead and read that one back to yourself

Already did there is nothing wrong with my statement

(March 27, 2025 at 11:00 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:

(March 27, 2025 at 10:38 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So, you are going with - they deserved it?

Let's hope no woman who is unlucky enough to be in your life ever suffers such.  It's obvious they have suffered enough.

Go ahead and explain how you got, "they deserved it" out of that.

I can only assume that's what *you* believe and are trying to project on me, because that was one hell of a swing and a miss lass.

Then explain why it's okay for a raped woman to carry a rape-caused pregnancy to term.

If I misunderstood you - explain it to me.

Quote:Actually and I already stated what it means and it's fully backed by science

Okay; well, as you may have noticed there tends to be about 5 pages of response to two posts of mine - I cannot be assed to go back and find it, so go ahead and define what you mean by "fully human."

Quote:Honest question, do you suffer from a certain level of autism? 

Nope 

Quote:The reason I asked is that statement was specifically in quotes and followed by a self-aware statement that it was a stupid remark.

Nope it was a sound remark 

Quote:Just be upfront about these things to avoid problems with communication, because these are very simple social clues that - like English grammar - is flying past you and leading you to start arguing against imaginary windmills. 

Nope 

Quote:Otherwise... well, I know you feel oh so gallant riding towards that swastika in the sky because I too once wore my grandfather's armor into battle... but it's just a windmill my dude.

Nothing I say or think has anything to do with swastika's. 

Quote:Okay; well, as you may have noticed there tends to be about 5 pages of response to two posts of mine - I cannot be assed to go back and find it, so go ahead and define what you mean by "fully human."

That's a you problem

(March 27, 2025 at 11:02 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 27, 2025 at 11:00 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Go ahead and explain how you got, "they deserved it" out of that.

I can only assume that's what *you* believe and are trying to project on me, because that was one hell of a swing and a miss lass.

Then explain why it's okay for a raped woman to carry a rape-caused pregnancy to term.

If I misunderstood you - explain it to me.

Define "okay" if I miss something...

Is it right she has to? No. Is it fair she has to? No. Is it a good thing she has to? No. Did she deserve it? No. Did she do something to provoke it? No. Do men have a "right" to her? No. Should a man decide for her? No. Should a woman decide for her? No. Should society decide for her? No. 



Do the sins of the father justify the blood of the son?

Quote:Go ahead and explain how you got, "they deserved it" out of that.

I can only assume that's what *you* believe and are trying to project on me, because that was one hell of a swing and a miss lass.

That's even more of a leap

Quote:Do the sins of the father justify the blood of the son?

Just as predicted 

A raped women should never be forced to carry her rapists  fetus .....period