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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
Quote:The irony went over your head. His fraudulent quote is "from" Psychology Today. It's just funny to show what a real article there says.
1. Nothing went over my head 

2. Nothing he posted  fraudulent

3. No what's funny is how desperate you are to keep this false narrative going 
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 8, 2025 at 2:33 pm)Sheldon Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 2:12 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: They aren't  fraudulent.  Nice try


Yup one publication which doesn't prove it doesn't exist
Indeed not, but John's claim was that "most people with a psychology degree know the dunning-kruger effect doesn't exist."

As Boru pointed out here:
Quote:According to https://www.ndnu.edu/how-long-does-it-ta...20country.

There are about 3.5 million people in the US with degrees in psychology. For John’s statement to be verified, he would need to provide evidence that at least 1 750 001 of those people don’t believe that the Dunning-Kruger effect exists.

Now of course John did not specify only the US, so even this would not properly evidence his sweeping hubris. And so far all he has offered is one article, from he source he claims is fraudulent, oh dear.
He seems quite obsessed with calling you a liar .....lol
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 8, 2025 at 2:32 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 2:12 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Yup one publication which doesn't prove it doesn't exist

The irony went over your head. His fraudulent quote is "from" Psychology Today. It's just funny to show what a real article there says.
I linked the source, you have lied about that twice, along with all your other lies. 

There are competing attitudes about the effect, that has not been disputed, only your claim that: "most people with a psychology degree know the dunning-kruger effect doesn't exist."

When can we expect you to offer anything that remotely supports that claim, oh not to worry, it's a rhetorical question,  we know the answer John. 

Oh and here is a link to that same source you keep lying is fraudulent because you found one article backing the position you made your separate original claim about:

Psychology Today

You will note it contains multiple articles about the effect that John claims "most people with a psychology degree know the dunning-kruger effect doesn't exist." One wonders what's left to debate, but either way John has offered nothing to support his sweeping hubristic claim, nor will he of course, as he simply made it up.

You also still haven't said why you believe the Jesus character in the gospel myths is a deity? 

That is what this thread is supposed to be about after all.
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(May 8, 2025 at 1:53 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 12:58 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Ok, so you are claiming that the source was incorrect, except I didn't offer a citation, but I did check the source offered in the quote was genuine, also I, and others have offered several other sources.

Stop; I don't care to talk to someone who promotes fraudulent citations.

"There is no Dunning-Kruger." (Psychology Today, 2020)

(May 8, 2025 at 2:46 pm)Sheldon Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 2:32 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: The irony went over your head. His fraudulent quote is "from" Psychology Today. It's just funny to show what a real article there says.
I linked the source, you have lied about that twice, along with all your other lies. 

There are competing attitudes about the effect, that has not been disputed, only your claim that: "most people with a psychology degree know the dunning-kruger effect doesn't exist."

When can we expect you to offer anything that remotely supports that claim, oh not to worry, it's a rhetorical question,  we know the answer John. 

Oh and here is a link to that same source you keep lying is fraudulent because you found one article backing the position you made your separate original claim about:

Psychology Today

You will note it contains multiple articles about the effect that John claims "most people with a psychology degree know the dunning-kruger effect doesn't exist." One wonders what's left to debate, but either way John has offered nothing to support his sweeping hubristic claim, nor will he of course, as he simply made it up.

You also still haven't said why you believe the Jesus character in the gospel myths is a deity? 

That is what this thread is supposed to be about after all.

Good luck with that.  

Johnny in a nutshell;
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 8, 2025 at 2:32 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 2:12 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Yup one publication which doesn't prove it doesn't exist

The irony went over your head. His fraudulent quote is "from" Psychology Today. It's just funny to show what a real article there says.

Don't you have psych patients you should be fucking up?

Boru
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 8, 2025 at 3:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 8, 2025 at 2:32 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: The irony went over your head. His fraudulent quote is "from" Psychology Today. It's just funny to show what a real article there says.

Don't you have psych patients you should be fucking up?

Boru
He doesn't need to see patients, he already knows how their minds work.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
This thread is making my eye twitch.
I'm your huckleberry.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
In my experience, christians believe because they think or wish (and I mean nothing untoward here, I call this genuine) that a remarkably small number of pregnant propositions are (or were) true. Conversely, a person will not believe in christianity if they think or wish that even one of those items aren't true. The odds aren't in the christianities' favor - which might explain why more skeptical populations are less christian by brute force of large numbers. Why the number of people who believe in one or more, but not all, of these propositions..... is far greater than the number of christians.

Gods exist and are theistic.
Moral content exists and is objective.
Gods can modify moral desert.

-and all of this is acceptable.

Notice "atheists have bad brain" isn't in there? Not because it can't be true, but because it doesn't matter if it is. We can zero out all the bad brained atheists...and we can imagine that's 99% of us...but the remaining 1% will still have a solid logical case against christian belief. Which is to say, that even if gods exist, and even if objective moral content exists, and even if gods are personal and intervening, and even if the manner of their intervention is to modify moral desert.....that would be bad...and so, it doesn't actually matter whether or not it's true. No more so than it matters whether or not some dipshit is in charge of a county's laws. That's granting a hell of alot to christian belief....not just possibility, even actuality... and it still has mount improbable to climb at the very last step. We are, or at least should be aware, that there are people in mechanically equivalent and undeniably factual circumstances who do not affirm the appropriate beliefs.
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(May 8, 2025 at 3:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Don't you have psych patients you should be fucking up?

Bro thinks psychology = therapy.
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Bro thinks "gods" is "thought". Physician, heal thyself.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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