(November 5, 2025 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not to mention that the US doesn’t exactly have a stellar record when it comes to waging a guerrilla war in a jungle.

Boru

In fairness, guerrilla forces (especially when sufficiently powerful or popular among the surrounding populace) tend to be very hard to defeat, unless you’re down for genocide.

Yes.

When and where?

(November 5, 2025 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not to mention that the US doesn’t exactly have a stellar record when it comes to waging a guerrilla war in a jungle.

Boru

In fairness, guerrilla forces (especially when sufficiently powerful or popular among the surrounding populace) tend to be very hard to defeat, unless you’re down for genocide.

It’s only a matter of time before Trumpleforeskin signs an executive order bringing back agent orange.

Boru

(November 5, 2025 at 7:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: In fairness, guerrilla forces (especially when sufficiently powerful or popular among the surrounding populace) tend to be very hard to defeat, unless you’re down for genocide.

It’s only a matter of time before Trumpleforeskin signs an executive order bringing back agent orange.

Boru

I said genocide, not war crimes or even crimes against humanity.

(November 5, 2025 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not to mention that the US doesn’t exactly have a stellar record when it comes to waging a guerrilla war in a jungle.

Boru

In fairness, guerrilla forces (especially when sufficiently powerful or popular among the surrounding populace) tend to be very hard to defeat, unless you’re down for genocide.

This is quite true of course.

One of the challenges that Mexico has with confronting the cartels head on is geography. It's difficult for the military to project force into remote, mountainous strongholds occupied by the cartels. Additionally, corruption is endemic - and it's hard to wonder why when the choose is "mordid o su vida" (bribe or your life). They are not shy about killing politicians who won't play ball.

(November 5, 2025 at 7:41 pm)Jackalope Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: In fairness, guerrilla forces (especially when sufficiently powerful or popular among the surrounding populace) tend to be very hard to defeat, unless you’re down for genocide.

This is quite true of course.

One of the challenges that Mexico has with confronting the cartels head on is geography.  It's difficult for the military to project force into remote, mountainous strongholds occupied by the cartels.  Additionally, corruption is endemic - and it's hard to wonder why when the choose is "mordid o su vida" (bribe or your life).  They are not shy about killing politicians who won't play ball.

Those same issues of terrain spell trouble to any Trump decision to take on the cartels. You've got jungles, you've got mountains and Mexico is not a small country at all.

(November 5, 2025 at 7:40 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 7:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s only a matter of time before Trumpleforeskin signs an executive order bringing back agent orange.

Boru

I said genocide, not war crimes or even crimes against humanity.

And I said agent orange, the use of which has never been declared a war crime or even a crime against humanity.  

Boru

(November 5, 2025 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 7:40 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I said genocide, not war crimes or even crimes against humanity.

And I said agent orange, the use of which has never been declared a war crime or even a crime against humanity.  

Boru

I don't know. Could any sort of gassing be considered a war crime by Geneva standards? I have no idea.

That said, I'm up in the air on whether it is or isn't ... but there's one hell of a rabbit-hole.

Trump’s swift demolition of East Wing may have launched asbestos plumes

The speedy demolition of the East Wing of the White House last week has health advocates and Democratic lawmakers seeking answers about what efforts were taken, if any, to keep workers and passersby safe from potential plumes of asbestos that could arise from the destruction.

The Post reported late Thursday that though the White House says abatement work was performed, it has still not released any documentation on the inspections or the work. It has also declined to identify the companies involved, although, based on photographs, ACECO has been identified as the company handling the demolition.

The only mitigation effort that is clear is the use of water hoses, which construction companies use to tamp down hazardous dust clouds.

In DC, asbestos abatement processes can only be done by a licensed contractor, who is required to notify the Department of Energy and Environment 10 days in advance of such work, then post notices of asbestos abatement around the area of work three days beforehand.

But reporting by the Post found that ACECO is not licensed to abate asbestos in DC. “Our understanding is that as of August 18, 2022, Aceco LLC is no longer engaged in asbestos abatement services,” a DC Department of Licensing and Consumer Protection spokesperson told The Post. “The company’s asbestos abatement license in the District of Columbia was voluntarily canceled by the owner on that date.”

Trump has a startlingly supportive stance on the use of asbestos. In his 1997 book The Art of the Comeback, Trump wrote that asbestos is “100% safe, once applied.” He blamed the mob for its reputation as a carcinogen, writing: “I believe that the movement against asbestos was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal.”

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/10/t...os-plumes/

(November 5, 2025 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 5, 2025 at 7:40 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I said genocide, not war crimes or even crimes against humanity.

And I said agent orange, the use of which has never been declared a war crime or even a crime against humanity.  

Boru

Nor has it been declared genocide.

Nicki Minaj praises Trump

Never liked her anyway.