(January 4, 2012 at 6:28 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Obama either lied to us or the president really has no control. He just signed that shit National Defense Authorization Act. Read some of it. Has crazy things in it. The law forces anyone that does business with Bank Markazi to choose between ending that business and with being blocked from the U.S. economy. So if you do business with Iran, you can't do business with the US, sounds like anti-free market, or to get big businesses in on an Iran war.
And this is Obama... not some neocon Bush, or Rumsfield.
So how can we in good concious vote for Obama, or the other neocon right winger they give us the option of voting for.
Bush hit us with a 10 pound sledge, Obama chose the lighter 5 pound sledge, it does not hurt as bad, but they are still hitting us with a fucking hammer.

That bank is the main bank of Iran. Soon you will see America blockading the coasts of Iran for anything dealing with oil just like we did with Japan. As soon as you see that you can guarentee some nastiness will occur.

This act was signed quite recently...now look what the EU is doing:

"E.U. Countries Take Step Toward Oil Embargo on Iran" (2 hours ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/world/...n-oil.html

I believe they are trying to cut of Iran as much as possible.

Shit is going to get even worse...GOD DAMNIT! Im so fucking sick of this shit!

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..on the other hand, Saudi Aramco (Saudi Arabian / American Co. - The biggest company in the world) just had a huge expo:



Saudi Aramco’s aggressive expansion plans and the related opportunities for greater collaboration with U.S. manufacturers and service providers were among the featured topics at the second annual U.S.-Saudi Business Opportunities Forum held Dec. 5-7 in Atlanta, Georgia. Other keynote presentations covered the growth of Saudi Arabia’s economy and new opportunities for business alliances between Saudi Arabia and the United States.





The conference attracted more than 1,000 attendees, including senior Saudi and American officials and business leaders, and was conducted to promote business partnerships. It was organized by the International Trade Committee of the Council of Saudi Chambers and the U.S. Saudi Arabian Business Council, in coordination with the U.S. Commercial Service and the Saudi Ministry of Commerce and Industry.

Speaking in a panel session titled “Business Opportunities in the Oil, Gas and Petrochemical Sectors,” Munir Rafie, Saudi Aramco vice president of Materials Supply, reinforced the size and scale of Saudi Aramco’s operations and capital program, and highlighted the company’s diversification into petrochemicals.

“We have already established a petrochemical complex in Rabigh on the Kingdom’s West Coast with Sumitomo, and we are about to break ground in the Eastern Province, with Dow Chemicals, on the world’s largest integrated petrochemical complex,” he said. “Our aim is to develop industrial clusters around these core enterprises, creating new business opportunities for investors — both from within the Kingdom and throughout the world.”

Other conference presenters from Saudi Aramco included Khaled Juraifani, who covered “Saudi Arabia Investment Enablers,” and Nabilah Tunisi, who presented during a session titled “Downstream Petrochemicals: National Priority and International Opportunity.”

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Can you imagine what an oil embargo and a bank embargo on Iran would do for the profits of Aramco?

Oh yeah. We do the same thing every time we want war. Embargo. See basically what some embargos and sanctions do is actually stop the supply of life needed supplies to the PEOPLE of the countries. Not to their governments, so we are suppressing innocent people with this shit, and in turn their government must react. Exactly what happened with Japan, anyone think they attacked Pearl Harbor cause they were bored? lol. I also find it funny that we have sandwiched Iran by occupying Afghanistan and Iraq. We have tried to take Iran down before, by propping up Saddam to fight the Iranians in the Iraq-Iran war. So this is all old news, coming back into light, same with Gaddafi, someone decided to put the machine in overdrive. I do wonder why? Why now? Aramco wants Iran's wells, it's pretty simple, same with Libyas. And when Geroge Bush makes out with a Saudi King, you know they are in it together. But don't talk about Saudi human right issues...

The vast majority of terrorists were Saudi's

Im not big into conspiracy theories...but damn...sometimes I just cant help but think this last decade has been carefully planned.

The definition of a conspiracy is an, evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

I think you can remove the word theory... lol. I mean look at that picture you posted!

Quote:sometimes I just cant help but think this last decade has been carefully planned.

You see "careful planning" here?

Of course you can't have perfect planning when you have a large portion of a population against your occupation. Imagine if China occupied New York or something, you could call me a insurgent, terrorist or whatever, I would be attacking those invaders for sure. So when you take/occupy something with force you will have opposition and of course it will be a cluster-fuck, if the Iraqi people really wanted to be "free" they wouldn't have fought back for years. Any time you try to do something against a person or peoples will, you will have an opposition and it will be a cluster of fuck.

I do see planning in the new middle east stuff. "Helped" Libya... not Bahrain, we have Naval ships in Bahrain(cause they let us), Saudi sent in troops to help their government get the protestors. Bahrain was a real uprising, and was shot down in no time.

Obama bowing to the Saudi King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

the funny thing is 20 years of the Bush family occupying the whitehouse and lip kissing the Saudi royalty in the last 30 years went completely unnoticed to them....but when Obama bows, suddenly they realize "Obama is in with the Saudi's"


Now you fucking right wing jar heads...we have been Saudis best fuck buddy since the 80's

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxVWckPZX...re=related

Obama gets a MASSIVE golden necklace for ensuring Saudi royal profits

On October 20, 2010, the U.S. State Department notified Congress of its intention to make the biggest arms sale in American history - an estimated $60.5 billion purchase by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Yeah nothing planned here... lol It's middle east domination time!

On the plus side, it reduces our trade deficit. Arms are about the only thing the US makes anymore.

(January 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: On the plus side, it reduces our trade deficit. Arms are about the only thing the US makes anymore.

No, we also export the sort of financial services that hides free-spending nation's debts until they threaten to drag down the largest economic block on earth.

Whether Obama has any second chance at presidency in 2012 probably depends much more on the designs of Frau Merkel than on the machinations of Mr. Romney.