(September 18, 2026 at 4:09 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 4:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, I am not Adam, because Adam is a myth. You might as well say I’m Paul Bunyan, Dionysus, or The Amazing Maurice.

Boru

The question here is not whether Adam existed - it's whether there is some internal consistency to the Bible. 
If the Bible defines you as Adam, it is consistent in indicting you with original sin.

(September 18, 2026 at 4:17 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 4:14 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Newton didn't make the case you have made filled with golf clubs, daughters, and tautologies.  The only thing you share is his incredulity.  Don't be a thief and steal Newton's honor by claiming it as your own.  Scoundrel.

I don't recall taking credit for Newton's observation.
Newsflash: When you mention an author by name, in the context of citing his conclusions, it usually means you are giving due credit instead of plagiarizing.

Quote:Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe {innate} gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it. Gravity must be caused by an agent {acting} <7v> consta{ntl}y according to certain laws, but whether this agent be material or immaterial is a question I have left to the consideration of my readers.

- Isaac Newton

(September 18, 2026 at 4:11 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 4:09 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Irrelevant.  The point is you only argued against a strawman.  Such arguments are worth dick.

Then Newton's take was a strawman. My position is basically a recapitulation of his stance.

(September 18, 2026 at 2:53 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 2:50 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: So, in your mind, children are not innocent?

Correct. Why would Yahweh allow an innocent child to suffer?
And how could Paul be any more clear, when he said that we all sinned in Adam?

(September 18, 2026 at 4:30 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 2:53 pm)Jal Wrote: Correct. Why would Yahweh allow an innocent child to suffer?
And how could Paul be any more clear, when he said that we all sinned in Adam?

Glad to know where you stand.

You are a vile piece of garbage. A malignant tumor in a human body casing. You are the equivalent of the collective bubbling foam algae that forms on the egdes of sewage treatement pipes. I do not care one whit if you are a troll or not.

Do not quote me;  you will not be getting any further replies from me.

Anyone who wishes to continue to converse with this child rape apologist may do so, but do so with the understanding they are a virulent scumbag piece of shit.


NO CHILD DESERVES TO BE RAPED

I sincerely hope your hell exists because when you finally stop robbing the world of oxygen,  you will be festering in it.

(September 18, 2026 at 4:39 pm)Jal Wrote: I'm sorry you disagree with Yahweh's sense of justice.

(September 18, 2026 at 4:42 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 4:39 pm)Jal Wrote: I'm sorry you disagree with Yahweh's sense of justice.

I repeat:

“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
― Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

(September 18, 2026 at 4:39 pm)Jal Wrote: This is a man who killed 6 million Jews. Now he is child again. Should he get away scot-free? No. Does he deserve to be killed? Yes. Tortured? Yes.

Raped? Yes. 

I'm sorry you disagree with Yahweh's sense of justice.

(September 18, 2026 at 5:07 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: It isn't a human. I wouldn't waste any time on it

(September 18, 2026 at 4:39 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 18, 2026 at 4:30 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Glad to know where you stand.

You are a vile piece of garbage. A malignant tumor in a human body casing. You are the equivalent of the collective bubbling foam algae that forms on the egdes of sewage treatement pipes. I do not care one whit if you are a troll or not.

Do not quote me;  you will not be getting any further replies from me.

Anyone who wishes to continue to converse with this child rape apologist may do so, but do so with the understanding they are a virulent scumbag piece of shit.


NO CHILD DESERVES TO BE RAPED

I sincerely hope your hell exists because when you finally stop robbing the world of oxygen,  you will be festering in it.

You're not thinking it through. Let's suppose that Hitler, instead of killing himself, had the following alternative at his disposal:
An age-reversal capsule. 

Just before his enemies can nab him, he jumps into the capsule and transforms himself into a child to escape justice.

This is a man who killed 6 million Jews. Now he is child again. Should he get away scot-free? No. Does he deserve to be killed? Yes. Tortured? Yes.

Raped? Yes. 

I'm sorry you disagree with Yahweh's sense of justice.