Why does God make anything right? If you're going to appeal to His nature, you need to explain why it's considered good or what it means for it to be called good without relying on your own subjective judgment, since you insist we can't do that . You can't just claim that nothing can be considered right or wrong without first establishing how the presence of that thing determines or contributes to right and wrong. 

(Yesterday at 2:34 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: If there's no God, nothing is objectively right or wrong or evil. Do you agree?

Yes, but then you could change the word God for mermaids in that sentence and I'd still agree. I don't see what a subjective belief in any deity has to do with morality either, objective or otherwise. 

Do you think the SS were moral? Atheists were not allowed in the SS, as both Himmler and Hitler reasoned their oath would be untrustworthy.

(Yesterday at 4:07 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

(Yesterday at 4:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course I don’t agree. Be less stupid.

Boru

What objective standard would make anything right or wrong without God?

What objective standard would make anything right or wrong with a deity?

(Yesterday at 5:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(Yesterday at 4:35 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Do you know what a tu quoque fallacy is?? It's a whataboutism. You never answered my question. Just asked another question. Look it up

How can it be a tu quoque fallacy when it wasn’t presented as part of an argument? Tu quoque refers to hypocrisy or personal history to invalidate an argument.

If Deese had said, ‘But there was that time you killed a baby because your God told you to’, THAT would be tu quoque. He didn’t, so it wasn’t.

Boru

And this is the fun part:

Why would he think I make a tu quoque???? Seems he knows the answer which he does not want to make public, because it would expose the bankruptcy of his divine command theory and how rotten his mind is because of religion.

(Yesterday at 4:35 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

(Yesterday at 4:23 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Fallacy? I asked a question! Answer it. It's easy: it's never.ever right to kill a baby!

Now you try it:
If your god asked you to kill a baby, would it be the right thing to  do? Is it ever ok to disobey your gods commands, by the way?

Do you know what a tu quoque fallacy is?? It's a whataboutism. You never answered my question. Just asked another question. Look it up

I know, and I didn't commit one, because I made no statement.
Let's go on

Show us that you know what objective morals are. Define them, in your own words.

Would it be right to kill a baby if God told you so?
Is it ever right to disobey his commands?

Here are more, also really easy to answer:
Did your god have the capacity to order baby killing in the past?
Does he ever change?
Does he currently still posess this capacity?

You see. No statement, no fallacy, just plain questions, simple and easy to answer with yes or no.

Make Jesus proud!!!!!

(Yesterday at 4:27 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:

(Yesterday at 4:07 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: What objective standard would make anything right or wrong without God?

ANY objective standard.
WITH your god it's just another SUBJECTIVE standard, By definition.
You don't know the definition of objective morals, do you?

What??? Saying "ANY objective standard" doesn't address the question. That's like answering that ANY of those men in the lineup committed the crime.

WHICH objective standard. Where is it? Who wrote it?

Tell me what objective morality is since I don't know 

(3 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote:

(Yesterday at 4:35 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Do you know what a tu quoque fallacy is?? It's a whataboutism. You never answered my question. Just asked another question. Look it up

I know, and I didn't commit one, because I made no statement.
Let's go on

Show us that you know what objective morals are. Define them, in your own words.

Would it be right to kill a baby if God told you so?
Is it ever right to disobey his commands?

Here are more, also really easy to answer:
Did your god have the capacity to order baby killing in the past?
Does he ever change?
Does he currently still posess this capacity?

You see. No statement, no fallacy, just plain questions, simple and easy to answer with yes or no.

Make Jesus proud!!!!!

Asking a question to answer a question is a tu quoque fallacy. It doesn't have to be statement. It's changing the topic. Go ask ai if I'm correct.

(3 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote:

(Yesterday at 5:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How can it be a tu quoque fallacy when it wasn’t presented as part of an argument? Tu quoque refers to hypocrisy or personal history to invalidate an argument.

If Deese had said, ‘But there was that time you killed a baby because your God told you to’, THAT would be tu quoque. He didn’t, so it wasn’t.

Boru

And this is the fun part:

Why would he think I make a tu quoque???? Seems he knows the answer which he does not want to make public, because it would expose the bankruptcy of his divine command theory and how rotten his mind is because of religion.

"Tu quoque refers to hypocrisy or personal history to invalidate an argument."
A whataboutism is a form of tu quoque fallacy. We can also call it a red herring.

But why don't you just answer the original question. If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong. Do you agree? If not, what objective morality exists?

(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: Tell me what objective morality is since I don't know 

Go and educate yourself about what objective morality us, and we can continue the conversation

This guy wants to have a conversation and make a bold statement about morality, yet he doesn’t even understand the nature of the topic he’s trying to discuss. Interesting strategy .....