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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 12:59 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm)Phil Wrote: (February 12, 2012 at 12:45 pm)Koklanas Wrote: " the thing that cannot be easily understood'. For you that encompasses the totality of human knowledge. Again, why are you an amoral animal?
I never claim so, the existance of the supreme being was mentioned in all the holy books given to Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. Human worshiped fire, sky, sun, stone and inanimate thing thinking they were the supreme being. Then came the Holy Book to warn human not to worship the creation, worship the Creator instead that is the supreme being.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Koklanas is right. There is a creator. Read this site for non-Muslim SCIENTISTS commens on the Quran.
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmuslim.htm
Famous scientists include George bernard shaw.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 1:48 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 1:32 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Koklanas is right. There is a creator. Read this site for non-Muslim SCIENTISTS commens on the Quran.
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmuslim.htm
Famous scientists include George bernard shaw.
George Bernard Shaw wrote 'pygmalion' later turned into the film 'my fair lady' are we talking about that George Bernard Shaw? 
He had bugger all to do with science according to his wikipedia entry.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 1:49 pm
George Bernard Shaw wrote 'pygmalion' later turned into the film 'my fair lady' are we talking about that George Bernard Shaw?
He had bugger all to do with science according to his wikipedia entry.
[/quote] Yes but what about George Sarton? He commented on Islam and spoke positively. I can show you the quotes by him if you want.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm
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(February 12, 2012 at 12:45 pm)Koklanas Wrote: " the thing that the supreme being was mentioned in all the holy books given to Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. Human worshiped fire, sky, sun, stone and inanimate thing thinking they were the supreme being. Then came the Holy Book to warn human not to worship the creation, worship the Creator instead that is the supreme being.
Yes, people worshiped silly things. People continue to worship silly things. The abrahamic god is among those silly things.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (February 12, 2012 at 12:45 pm)Koklanas Wrote: " the thing that the supreme being was mentioned in all the holy books given to Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. Human worshiped fire, sky, sun, stone and inanimate thing thinking they were the supreme being. Then came the Holy Book to warn human not to worship the creation, worship the Creator instead that is the supreme being.
Yes, people worshiped silly things. People continue to worship silly things. The abrahamic god is among those silly things. Is this the same god that was praised by Scientists? including George Sarton?
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:11 pm
George Bernard Shaw was awesomeness in a box.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:16 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Is this the same god that was praised by Scientists? including George Sarton?
Did he dance all night?
Anyhoo, the Islamic scientists of the middle ages were more advanced Than their eropean counterparts who were stullified by the chrsitianity, however 'what have they done for us lately' as Janet Jackson would've said. The main thrust of Islam at the mo seems to be to retard the advance of humanity not advance it
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:17 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 2:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (February 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Is this the same god that was praised by Scientists? including George Sarton?
Did he dance all night?
Anyhoo, the Islamic scientists of the middle ages were more advanced Than their eropean counterparts who were stullified by the chrsitianity, however 'what have they done for us lately' as Janet Jackson would've said. The main thrust of Islam at the mo seems to be to retard the advance of humanity not advance it All this shows is Islam is true. Why would a knowledgable man ike George Sarton praise Islam? I'm sure if a Sheikh spoke to him in detail he would of accepted Islam.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 12, 2012 at 2:21 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Koklanas Wrote: (February 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm)Phil Wrote: (February 12, 2012 at 12:45 pm)Koklanas Wrote: " the thing that cannot be easily understood'. For you that encompasses the totality of human knowledge. Again, why are you an amoral animal?
I never claim so, the existance of the supreme being was mentioned in all the holy books given to Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. Human worshiped fire, sky, sun, stone and inanimate thing thinking they were the supreme being. Then came the Holy Book to warn human not to worship the creation, worship the Creator instead that is the supreme being.
Atleast thise inanimate things actually existed, unlike a creator.
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