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Theists are Insecure
RE: Theists are Insecure
That's not entirely true, christians offer some poor jew up as a sacrifice all day every day in their thoughts and prayers. It's actually seen as a virtue. Words fail me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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OK, burnt offering means stay a virgin and Jesus didn't die for our sins, he was just executed. If you say so, Chipan.
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(March 1, 2012 at 11:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: That's not entirely true, christians offer some poor jew up as a sacrifice all day every day in their thoughts and prayers. It's actually seen as a virtue. Words fail me.

That's a catholic belief. I'm reluctant to call them Christian their beliefs are so radical.
(March 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: OK, burnt offering means stay a virgin and Jesus didn't die for our sins, he was just executed. If you say so, Chipan.

He did die for our sins but he was not an offering of men. He was an offering from God to us.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Theists are Insecure
Not all Christians believe in sacrificial atonement, particularly those exploring Process Theology.
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Offered him to us did he? To appease the debt we created, the lift the curse we placed? So that we might let ourselves into our little after hours club, which we created and over which we are the rulers? If you say so Chip.

Glad to hear Chad, makes me a little more comfortable falling asleep around you. At least I wont wake up nailed to a piece of wood for something your cousin did before I was born.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(March 1, 2012 at 7:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Offered him to us did he? To appease the debt we created, the lift the curse we placed? So that we might let ourselves into our little after hours club, which we created and over which we are the rulers? If you say so Chip.

Glad to hear Chad, makes me a little more comfortable falling asleep around you. At least I wont wake up nailed to a piece of wood for something your cousin did before I was born.

It sure does sound stupid when you say it like that and change it up a little with some crap of yours that is not true.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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(March 1, 2012 at 7:05 pm)chipan Wrote:
(March 1, 2012 at 11:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: That's not entirely true, christians offer some poor jew up as a sacrifice all day every day in their thoughts and prayers. It's actually seen as a virtue. Words fail me.

That's a catholic belief. I'm reluctant to call them Christian their beliefs are so radical.
(March 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: OK, burnt offering means stay a virgin and Jesus didn't die for our sins, he was just executed. If you say so, Chipan.

He did die for our sins but he was not an offering of men. He was an offering from God to us.


The Catholics are SO Radical, they are not Christians?
Seems they were the only Christians from 300AD (after they killed/abolished the other competing "Christians")
till Martin Luther
nailed his revolt up in the 1500's. Are REAL Christians only 500 years old Chippy?
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
Mark Twain

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(March 1, 2012 at 8:00 pm)chipan Wrote: It sure does sound stupid when you say it like that and change it up a little with some crap of yours that is not true.

Okay. Now I'm confused, I'm just trying to follow you. Was jesus sacrificed for our sins? Or was he no such sacrifice. Is god making offerings to appease us, or appease himself? I just want to be clear.

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Not exactly, whateverist. Placing yourself at the mercy of someone else is not the same as throwing yourself on a grenade. In the case of the grenade the enemy soldier has already committed the act of violence. In contrast, the injustice done to Jesus was performed after his surrender.
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Jesus picked the wrong people to place himself at the mercy of. Should have tried an atheist crowd. Or at least somebody who doesn't crucify people.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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