Posts: 1327
Threads: 37
Joined: January 15, 2012
Reputation:
15
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 8:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Unintelligent design, requiring food in the first place, ensuring that some portion of us will starve every day. To compound matters, leaving us to engineer our food after saddling us with the requirement. God couldn't handle an ear of fucking corn? Worthless.
Requiring food has nothing to do with design. All life has metabolism and requires an energy source otherwise they would quickly "melt" into a state of equilibrium.
Posts: 4344
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation:
64
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 8:46 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm)Phil Wrote: (March 11, 2012 at 8:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Unintelligent design, requiring food in the first place, ensuring that some portion of us will starve every day. To compound matters, leaving us to engineer our food after saddling us with the requirement. God couldn't handle an ear of fucking corn? Worthless.
Requiring food has nothing to do with design. All life has metabolism and requires an energy source otherwise they would quickly "melt" into a state of equilibrium.
Not if we ran on pure magicness
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:03 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We're talking about god here Phil, fucker can do whatever he likes, including allowing us to exist in the middle of a pulsar on nothing but "psychic energy". Metabolism, energy and equilibrium don't sound like design features at all, sounds more like something cobbled together by a less than sentient process working only with what it had unable to imagine or manufacture a less troublesome alternative. Embrace the idiocy, its the best defense against idiocy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 65
Threads: 1
Joined: March 9, 2012
Reputation:
0
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:39 pm
FYI - ID theory does not offer an explanation about the designer, nor the design itself. It just suggests that there is a designer based on the observation of the natural realm.
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yet even in this, if fails completely. Mostly because of their inability to offer explanations about any design or designer. Ever thought of that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 65
Threads: 1
Joined: March 9, 2012
Reputation:
0
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:48 pm by black36.)
(March 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yet even in this, if fails completely. Mostly because of their inability to offer explanations about any design or designer. Ever thought of that?
Because, ID theory is not capable of doing such, just as evolutionary THEORY cannot explain why we are here in the first place. ID theory can only point to the obviousness that something has been designed, rather than naturally formed.
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:48 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 9:51 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
ID theory isn't capable of doing anything, because there is no such thing. It's just a running joke of a list of complaints (each roundly rejected as not- science, bad -science, and flat out ignorance). Whether or not the explanations offered by EbNS (or any other means) are satisfying to you has nothing to do with whether or not they offer explanations. If ID were obvious, you wouldn't have to argue for it at all, it would be science. It is not. You, my friend, were naturally formed. Along with everything else around you. All evidence points to this, no evidence points to any other explanation. Surprise surprise, no other explanation is required.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 4344
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation:
64
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm)black36 Wrote: Because, ID theory is not capable of doing such, just as evolutionary THEORY cannot explain why we are here in the first place. ID theory can only point to the obviousness that something has been designed, rather than naturally formed.
But ID isn't a theory. Its bullshit.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory
Posts: 65
Threads: 1
Joined: March 9, 2012
Reputation:
0
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:51 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 9:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: ID theory isn't capable of doing anything, because there is no such thing. It's just a running joke of a list of complaints (each roundly rejected as not- science, bad -science, and flat out ignorance). Whether or not the explanations offered by EbNS (or any other means) are satisfying to you has nothing to do with whether or not they offer explanations. If ID were obvious, you wouldn't have to argue for it at all, it would be science. It is not.
All ID theory does is suggest a possible explanation for the obvious purpose present in a given scenario.
Posts: 4344
Threads: 43
Joined: February 21, 2012
Reputation:
64
RE: 'Intelligent' design?
March 11, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Once again not a theory...
|