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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Quote:I always thought that a Hard Atheist is someone who says "There is DEFINITELY without a shadow of a doubt no supernatural god(s)", while a soft atheist is one who says "It is incredibly improbable that god(s) exists".
Yes and no.
Hard: 'there is no god/ I believe there is no god" Positive claims,attracting the burden of proof.
Soft /weak " I do not believe in gods". Most common reason 'lack of credible evidence' Opinions on how likely the existence of god vary,and are not implied by soft atheism. Soft atheism makes no claims so has no burden of proof.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm
(May 31, 2012 at 7:01 pm)Chuck Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 7:00 pm)Polaris Wrote: Atheists who let their hatred for religion get in the way of logic and reason.
Logic and reason hates religion.
Logic and reason hates ignorance and blindness. You have many religious folk and many atheists who fall victim to such weakness.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm
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(May 31, 2012 at 7:00 pm)Polaris Wrote: 1002. Religion is not evil. People are evil. Until Americans learn to put the blame where it is due, America will continue to slip.
Without religion, there will be people who are good and will do good things, and people who are evil and will do evil things. But to make good people joyfully do copious amounts of evil things, that is religion.
So yes, until American learn to put the blame on christianity, the particular favor of religion which is its own original sin, it will indeed continue to slip.
(May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm)Polaris Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 7:01 pm)Chuck Wrote: Logic and reason hates religion.
Logic and reason hates ignorance and blindness. You have many religious folk and many atheists who fall victim to such weakness.
Logic and reason hates ignorance. Religion is pure ignorance, although ignorance does not require religion.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Then I guess Communism is a religion then.
American atheists are twenty years behind the rest of the world it seems.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:08 pm
(May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm)Polaris Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 7:01 pm)Chuck Wrote: Logic and reason hates religion.
Logic and reason hates ignorance and blindness. You have many religious folk and many atheists who fall victim to such weakness.
logic and reason destroys ignorance and stupidity a.k.a religion
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
May 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Quote:Atheists who let their hatred for religion get in the way of logic and reason.
I agree,one is too many. However, irrationality is part of the human condition.
That is why I loathe organised religions rather than their dupes.
I am fearful of any individual who acts from a position of personal certitude.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
June 1, 2012 at 4:11 am
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(May 31, 2012 at 5:40 pm)Polaris Wrote: Funny. I believe the same regarding hardcore Atheism. Atheism simply means without theism. What you're talking about is anti-theist or anti-religion. I'm an atheist, but I'm also a secular humanist. Which means I think it is best that religion has no authority in any public setting, or military. That it should remain in church or at home. It is after all, a personal belief, nothing more.
(May 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Polaris Wrote: American atheists are twenty years behind the rest of the world it seems.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
June 1, 2012 at 4:28 am
Hard atheism ≠ Anti-theism
What's hard atheism by your definition anyhow?
The person claiming that he's 100% sure that there is no God/gods?
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
June 1, 2012 at 8:35 am
(May 31, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Polaris Wrote: Then I guess Communism is a religion then.
American atheists are twenty years behind the rest of the world it seems.
You're thinking of Stalinism, which as a cult of personality was indistinguishable from a religion.
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RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
June 1, 2012 at 8:44 am
Not reading the thread, but I do consider myself an anti-theist. I despise religion.
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