(June 2, 2012 at 10:34 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Overly complicated myth.

The explaination consists of one sentence 14 words long. the instruction manual for the game of Jenga is more complicated.

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(June 2, 2012 at 10:54 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Who is the master of the underworld where the fallen are sent for eternal torment?

No one. you are thinking of greek mythos

So... hell runs itself?

Sorry. All the mythos run together sometimes.

(June 2, 2012 at 10:58 pm)aleialoura Wrote: So... hell runs itself?

Sorry. All the mythos run together sometimes.

Hell is a void or the absence of God. Emptiness does not need a care taker.

(June 2, 2012 at 10:48 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 2, 2012 at 10:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So, it's your position that xtianity isn't actually a monotheistic religion, seeing that it has three deities?

mon·o·the·ism
   [mon-uh-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA

noun
the doctrine or belief that there is only one God.
dictionary.com
Again their is only one God. God being a title and not a name.

I see where you're coming from, but I find that explanation to be ripe with special pleading and more than a little ad hoc. I'm not particularly interested in debating the issue, just in making an observation. Consider that recognition that we aren't likely to see eye to eye on the topic.

In closing, I'll offer this from the same source you used (remembering that you made reference to three deities):

deity
[dee-i-tee]   Origin
de·i·ty
   [dee-i-tee] Show IPA
noun, plural de·i·ties.
1.
a god or goddess.
2.
divine character or nature, especially that of the Supreme Being; divinity.
3.
the estate or rank of a god: The king attained deity after his death.
4.
a person or thing revered as a god or goddess: a society in which money is the only deity.
5.
the Deity, God; Supreme Being.

Quote:the instruction manual for the game of Jenga is more complicated.

But Jenga makes sense.

Your "trinity" is beyond silly.

(June 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm)Drich Wrote: Hell is a void or the absence of God.

Sounds like heaven to me.

(June 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(June 2, 2012 at 10:48 pm)Drich Wrote: mon·o·the·ism
   [mon-uh-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA

noun
the doctrine or belief that there is only one God.
dictionary.com
Again their is only one God. God being a title and not a name.

I see where you're coming from, but I find that explanation to be ripe with special pleading and more than a little ad hoc. I'm not particularly interested in debating the issue, just in making an observation. Consider that recognition that we aren't likely to see eye to eye on the topic.

In closing, I'll offer this from the same source you used (remembering that you made reference to three deities):

deity
[dee-i-tee]   Origin
de·i·ty
   [dee-i-tee] Show IPA
noun, plural de·i·ties.
1.
a god or goddess.
2.
divine character or nature, especially that of the Supreme Being; divinity.
3.
the estate or rank of a god: The king attained deity after his death.
4.
a person or thing revered as a god or goddess: a society in which money is the only deity.
5.
the Deity, God; Supreme Being.

These definations are ambigous, and don't confirm or deny anything in of themselves. It all depends on how one wishes to use them. I would say defination 3 best suits the discussion we are having.

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(June 2, 2012 at 11:05 pm)aleialoura Wrote:

(June 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm)Drich Wrote: Hell is a void or the absence of God.

Sounds like heaven to me.

That is why you have been given this life. For not all want to spend eternity with God.

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(June 2, 2012 at 11:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:the instruction manual for the game of Jenga is more complicated.

But Jenga makes sense.

Your "trinity" is beyond silly.

how so?

Which god?

Quote:Four, if you include the devil. Add in all those lesser demons and saints and you're up into the shitloads.

Five if you include the Virgin Mary,more in many of her guises,especially in Ireland and South America.

The Muslims reject the triune god for the sensible reason that it makes no sense. My observation is that few Christians understand the sophistry used to justify the belief. I never have.As with most problematic Church doctrine,the response was "it's a mystery of the faith,you just have to believe". Other times the explanation was so fatuous,I had trouble swallowing it even at age 12 .EG.The doctrine of Limbo,where unbaptised babies go, (since quietly dropped) the doctrine of original sin. However, my favourites are the arguments for papal succession from Saint Peter and papal infallibility. The Catholic church has some wonderfully original interpretations of scripture not shared by the rest of Christendom.

(June 2, 2012 at 11:11 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Which god?

There is only one God