(June 4, 2012 at 5:22 am)Undeceived Wrote: The word "love" appears in the NIV Bible 697 times.

Wc Wrote:The word sin, and its verbs, past, present and future tense appears in the King James Version some 841 times. What is your point?

The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

Undeceived Wrote:The point is that writing these things makes no sense if your goal is to win people over.

Wc Wrote:As a Christian you're supposed to. You must believe Christ died for all of mankind's sins and you are here to try and save as many people's souls as possible by turning them back to god. If you do not try, you have abandoned your would-be brothers and sisters, and are in danger of hellfire yourself.

The bold above is not true, if you intend to argue scripture, please study them before commenting, so you can intelligently have a discussion. The same goes for what's in red. Thank you.

(June 3, 2012 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 3, 2012 at 2:16 am)Cinjin Wrote: Awesome. This little analogy doesn't offer any kind of answer or clear up the confusion around the trinity in any way shape or form.The three branches of the government are not made up of the same fucking people.

Who said anything about the same people?
Take your time this time and read what was written again;
God is a title and not a name as in Mr.. President, or Doctor.
-or-
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Three distinct separate but equals deities but only One God.

Now that you realize I am saying there are three deities who comprise the one God, and before you assume you are the first person who has asked the next question your going to ask. Read what some of the others asked, and I have already answered.

lol ...

umm right, your "answer" is not an answer for anything. Analogies and metaphors are not answers. Also, let me go ahead and put in the last part of my quote that you left out.

Cinjin Wrote:The president doesn't double as a Senator and a Congressman doesn't suddenly get to play President for a day. This is just a version of the three different forms of water argument. Only worse ... if that's possible.

You see that was the key part. Your godboy DOES double. He is indeed BOTH the FATHER and the SON and even if you don't admit he is the same person, most every other trinity dumbfuck will heartily disagree with you. Ergo, my point stands. Once again Drich, you leave yourself no credibility when you omit half my post in a deceptive attempt to back up your silly ideas.

Also, you do realize that it doesn't matter what you cook up. There's always going to be 10 million other True Christians (with all the necessary trademarks) who will declare you a false prophet and condemn you to an eternity in hell with the rest of us heathens.



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(June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

Look, GC. You don't need to lecture me, I once believed all that. I prayed for forgiveness often until the belief in Christianity collapsed, and then I become a misotheist, and then a deist, and then a pantheist/deist, and so on, and so on.

In a nutshell - I turned away.

Quote:The bold above is not true, if you intend to argue scripture, please study them before commenting, so you can intelligently have a discussion. The same goes for what's in red. Thank you.

This is kind of obvious from Jesus' teachings and Paul's letters in Corinthians isn't it? If you don't seek to save the spiritually dead, what are you? Not of Christ that's for sure. If you do not aim to turn the hearts of the people to God you do not believe in Jesus' sacrifice, therefore you are condemned, perishable and will suffer a fate worse than Sodom.

Blah blah blah.

(June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

True. "He rules the heavens and His tender mercies are upon all the earth."

(June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

Great! So I can live a life of depravity and sin and then, just before I die, I ask "God" for forgiveness and I get to spend eternity in paradise right beside Mother Theresa. Sweet!

(June 4, 2012 at 4:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

True. "He rules the heavens and His tender mercies are upon all the earth."

(June 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Thor Wrote:

(June 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: The point is this, God's love forgives all the sin when believers ask for His forgiveness.

Great! So I can live a life of depravity and sin and then, just before I die, I ask "God" for forgiveness and I get to spend eternity in paradise right beside Mother Theresa. Sweet!

Now you're getting it. We Christians like to speak of justice but, in the final analysis, the only crime is disbelief and the only virtue is gullibility. The advantage of following this system of morality is you can do the following:

1. Sin.
2. Ask forgiveness.
3. Sin again.
4. Ask forgiveness again.
5. Look down on atheists as having no morals.

(June 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm)Cinjin Wrote:

(June 3, 2012 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: Who said anything about the same people?
Take your time this time and read what was written again;
God is a title and not a name as in Mr.. President, or Doctor.
-or-
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Three distinct separate but equals deities but only One God.

Now that you realize I am saying there are three deities who comprise the one God, and before you assume you are the first person who has asked the next question your going to ask. Read what some of the others asked, and I have already answered.

lol ...

umm right, your "answer" is not an answer for anything. Analogies and metaphors are not answers. Also, let me go ahead and put in the last part of my quote that you left out.

Cinjin Wrote:The president doesn't double as a Senator and a Congressman doesn't suddenly get to play President for a day. This is just a version of the three different forms of water argument. Only worse ... if that's possible.

You see that was the key part. Your godboy DOES double. He is indeed BOTH the FATHER and the SON and even if you don't admit he is the same person, most every other trinity dumbfuck will heartily disagree with you. Ergo, my point stands. Once again Drich, you leave yourself no credibility when you omit half my post in a deceptive attempt to back up your silly ideas.

Also, you do realize that it doesn't matter what you cook up. There's always going to be 10 million other True Christians (with all the necessary trademarks) who will declare you a false prophet and condemn you to an eternity in hell with the rest of us heathens.



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If you believe God has a split personality where He is Father and Son all at once, then all you have to do is show Book, Chappter and verse. Then the Arguement ends.

(June 4, 2012 at 4:54 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm)Cinjin Wrote: lol ...

umm right, your "answer" is not an answer for anything. Analogies and metaphors are not answers. Also, let me go ahead and put in the last part of my quote that you left out.

You see that was the key part. Your godboy DOES double. He is indeed BOTH the FATHER and the SON and even if you don't admit he is the same person, most every other trinity dumbfuck will heartily disagree with you. Ergo, my point stands. Once again Drich, you leave yourself no credibility when you omit half my post in a deceptive attempt to back up your silly ideas.

Also, you do realize that it doesn't matter what you cook up. There's always going to be 10 million other True Christians (with all the necessary trademarks) who will declare you a false prophet and condemn you to an eternity in hell with the rest of us heathens.



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If you believe God has a split personality where He is Father and Son all at once, then all you have to do is show Book, Chappter and verse. Then the Arguement ends.

And where are the bible verses showing your interpretation of the dogma? You post time and time again about your "biblical definitions" yet provide no support from your book. I'm not going to bother doing the leg work for your fairy tale.

(June 4, 2012 at 4:54 pm)Drich Wrote: If you believe God has a split personality where He is Father and Son all at once, then all you have to do is show Book, Chappter and verse. Then the Arguement ends.

Are you kidding? The god of the OT is angry, vengeful and warlike. The god of the NT is loving, forgiving and peaceful. If that doesn't demonstrate a split personality, I don't know what does.