(June 7, 2012 at 5:25 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Thor Wrote: Fuck the holy spirit.

Now what?

GC barges in and tells you you're not fucking it right.

GC's autoerotic activities is an inappropriate topic for a family forum.

Looks like someone jumbled up a bunch of refrigerator magnets with words on them and threw them all in a pile:

(June 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote:

(June 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:

Quote:Matt 24:36

Quote:XV. Their tenth objection is the ignorance, and the statement that Of the last day and hour knoweth no man, not even the Son Himself, but the Father. [3674] And yet how can Wisdom be ignorant of anything—that is, Wisdom Who made the worlds, Who perfects them, Who remodels them, Who is the Limit of all things that were made, Who knoweth the things of God as the spirit of a man knows the things that are in him? [3675] For what can be more perfect than this knowledge? How then can you say that all things before that hour He knows accurately, and all things that are to happen about the time of the end, but of the hour itself He is ignorant? For such a thing would be like a riddle; as if one were to say that he knew accurately all that was in front of the wall, but did not know the wall itself; or that, knowing the end of the day, he did not know the beginning of the night—where knowledge of the one necessarily brings in the other. Thus everyone must see that He knows as God, and knows not as Man;—if one may separate the visible from that which is discerned by thought alone. For the absolute and unconditioned use of the Name "The Son" in this passage, without the addition of whose Son, gives us this thought, that we are to understand the ignorance in the most reverent sense, by attributing it to the Manhood, and not to the Godhead.

http://www.elpenor.org/gregory-nazianzen....asp?pg=10

....or vomited up a gallon or so of alphabet soup.

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(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: No, Christians would not support slavery in any way

http://www.kkk.com/



"Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America"!


Yeah.

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(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: As for stoning children Christians have never practiced it, neither has the Jewish nation, I've explained this so many times I've given up on you all being able to comprehend, for some reason it just goes right over your heads, I find this to be puzzling since you all claim intelligence.

You can't be serious. It's right there in your your book, a command from your mythical god-figure. You seem to be practicing a hell of a lot of taqiyya there, bud. And the following statement makes it even more evident, as it directly contradicts your denial of Deuterotomy:

(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes, I believe that the Bible is true from the first word to the last word. I see no reason to doubt it, and you will always have to deal with this as long as we have discussions. I do not change my mind because others do not see the truth.

Which statement is of course pathetically laughable, as your assertion that your silly book is truth is an absurd, flat-out lie.

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(June 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm)Drich Wrote: [quote='Epimethean' pid='295617' dateline='1339016385']
So, you're saying that we shouldn't read the bible literally at all? Or only when you tell us not to do so?

I am saying read the bible for what it is, a translation of a work written to people who lived 2000 years or so ago.

Yes, of course: a poorly written book of fiction.

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(June 6, 2012 at 10:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: It's because one rejects salvation one winds up in hell.
You are not a believer.

Fine. However, we are simply rejecting superstitious bullshit and lies.

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(June 7, 2012 at 10:17 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 9:59 am)Tobie Wrote: How do you determine which passage merits a "face value" reading? Who are you, in absence of instruction from the bible's authors, to say that parts are metaphorical?

So you cannot figure out if your math text books are poetry or not?

Is that so bad? You seem to be lost on the fact that your great book is a work of fiction.

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(June 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 10:25 am)Tobie Wrote: Maths books are not fiction, and are up to date, so yes I can.

Of course you can. I used an absurd example to illustrate a point. All texts require you to use a greater or lesser degree of judgement about its nature, the author's, intent, and the historical and social contexts within which they were written. Math vs. poetry is east. Ancient documents much less so. Even then, some meanings are relatively clear, others more speculative. Discussion and debate amongst interpretors is not evidence that the texts lack value or applicability. Few things of value are easily attained.

Yeah. And we know that math books are non-fiction. You, however, fail to understand that your cherished book is through-and-through fiction.

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(June 7, 2012 at 1:00 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Well, I still read The Iliad, Min, but at least I know it is a work of fiction ...

...and there was an effort on the part of the author to at least make some sense.....

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(June 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 12:54 pm)Epimethean Wrote: ...nothing more than a storybook and yet christians continue to venerate it.

Careful now...you're knocking on the door of purdition. Hopefully, you're rejecting the wording and not the Spirit behind the text.

"Purdition"...?


hock:




You know, if you are going to make a big show of bluffing an empty threat of eternal punishment, you might at least bother to fucking learn to spell the scary word you are trying to invoke so you don't look like a bleeding idiot.

Oh, wait,...



Oh, and PS, your mythical "holy spirit" is just a bogey man that keeps you in fear, holds you back and makes you a pompous, brainwashed ass.


And it sucks the asses of camels every morning for breakfast.

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(June 7, 2012 at 4:16 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 2:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Careful now...you're knocking on the door of purdition. Hopefully, you're rejecting the wording and not the Spirit behind the text.

Meh, they're all damned anyway. Eternally. There's nothing they can do about it now.

Great. So go away and kick the dust from your feet like your mythical gawd-boy told you to.

Quote:

Quote:Matt 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

It appears our Lord is rather touchy about his flying invisible side kick, The Holy Spirit. And since The Holy Spirit inspired the Bible, it follows that disparaging the Bible counts.

So never say anything like fuck The Holy Spirit because...

uh oh

Because fuck your mythical holy spirit and your silly superstitions and whatever pompous douchebaggery drives you to delude yourself into thinking you are anything but a silly superstitious idiot for thinking your words are anything but preposterous and nonsensical, and for thinking anyone should take your empty word salad seriously or treat it as anything but a pitiful joke.

Oh, wait -- you are a Poe.

(June 7, 2012 at 9:28 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Oh, wait -- you are a Poe.

And here's your winking smiley:

(June 7, 2012 at 10:46 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 9:28 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Oh, wait -- you are a Poe.

And here's your winking smiley:

...and mine:




I love that you voice the fundies' sentiments so eloquently and precisely, BTW... it seems to real.....Heh...

(June 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: I love that you voice the fundies' sentiments so eloquently and precisely, BTW... it seems to real.....Heh...

Thank you. I take that as a compliment. You'll notice the believers take me seriously at first as well. One I quote in my signature. Another I exchanged a few PMs with before he finally went, "heeeeeyyyyyyy".

It's no great accomplishment though. We sane people (non believers) often know their own religion better than they do.

...and now to get back in character...

I'M A TRUE CHRISTIAN ™ AND VOICE THE RIGHTEOUS SENTIMENT SO PRECISELY BECAUSE I'M CHANNELING THE HOLY SPIRIT... OR IS THAT THE CAPS LOCK?

Quote:I've explained this so many times I've given up on you all being able to comprehend

Probably because your "explanation" is total horseshit, G-C. You are the quintessential version of the literalist xtian asshole who maintains that his fucking bible is the word of god....until it embarrasses you and then you start to make excuses for your god.

Fuck you both.

(June 7, 2012 at 11:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:I've explained this so many times I've given up on you all being able to comprehend

Probably because your "explanation" is total horseshit, G-C. You are the quintessential version of the literalist xtian asshole who maintains that his fucking bible is the word of god....until it embarrasses you and then you start to make excuses for your god.

Fuck you both.

^THIS.

....resisting the urge to dig up purported "explanation"...already know what a train wreck looks like....


MIN: I just can't believe some of the shit theists get away with pandering here....I look around here and it feels so......ah,... rat-free over at home....

Actually they don't get away with much. Too many people call them on their bullshit as soon as it seeps out of their mouths.

(June 7, 2012 at 9:28 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:

(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: No, Christians would not support slavery in any way

http://www.kkk.com/



"Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America"!


Yeah.

By Biblical definition the KKK is not a Christian organization, if you knew anything about the scriptures you would have known this. Your attempt at trying to disprove what I stated if pathetic at best and at it's worst you are promoting racialism, you are lowering yourself on the human scale.

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(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: As for stoning children Christians have never practiced it, neither has the Jewish nation, I've explained this so many times I've given up on you all being able to comprehend, for some reason it just goes right over your heads, I find this to be puzzling since you all claim intelligence.

TMb Wrote:You can't be serious. It's right there in your your book, a command from your mythical god-figure. You seem to be practicing a hell of a lot of taqiyya there, bud. And the following statement makes it even more evident, as it directly contradicts your denial of Deuterotomy:

I do not deny any part of the scriptures, it is you who knows nothing about them. Like I said, I've explained those verses again and again until I'm tired of trying to teach those who either are or act like complete idiots. If you decided you want to learn about those passages go look up the post I made on them, if not then you should try your talents on some other subject.

(June 6, 2012 at 5:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yes, I believe that the Bible is true from the first word to the last word. I see no reason to doubt it, and you will always have to deal with this as long as we have discussions. I do not change my mind because others do not see the truth.

TMb Wrote:Which statement is of course pathetically laughable, as your assertion that your silly book is truth is an absurd, flat-out lie.

Oh please, do show me how the scriptures are lies, please.

(June 6, 2012 at 10:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: It's because one rejects salvation one winds up in hell.
You are not a believer.

TMb Wrote:Fine. However, we are simply rejecting superstitious bullshit and lies.

Prove your statement, you made it prove it.

By the way welcome newbe.

Quote:By Biblical definition the KKK is not a Christian organization,

Oh, G-C trots out the NO TRUE KLANSMAN argument yet again.

Actually, all xtians pretty much suck equally. Not a dime's worth of difference among any of them.