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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 6:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
We have read it, repeatedly.
Your point?
Gen1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forthabundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Says here that god created every living creature.
Don't know your own book very well do you......
I know it well enough to say God did not create every thing.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 6:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote: We have read it, repeatedly.
Your point?
Gen1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forthabundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Says here that god created every living creature.
Don't know your own book very well do you......
I know it well enough to say God did not create every thing.
You have no choice to back peddle because you know your real belief that he did create everything is scientifically absurd and morally repugnant.
It is called cherry picking. God only does pleasant things, well, thats what you want to believe despite all the gory nasty shit in the bible he watches over and or even condones or does himself.
So lets here the other cop out excuses.
Metaphor
Misinterpretation
You just don't understand
God can do what he wants
You hate God
God works in mysterious ways
Any excuse is a good one for the gullible.
Maybe you should try on a little reality for size. You merely like the idea of having a super hero. You should not feel alone, our species has constantly concocted deities/super natural/ super heros. It is an anthropomorphic reflection of human narcissism and a refusal to face our finite existence. Sugar pills feel good, but they are still nothing more than sugar pills.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 3:20 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 10:17 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 12:16 am)Annik Wrote: If your god did not create everything, then who did?
You know what I wanna ask? If god created everything, it's not the 'why' I'm interested in, it's the how. How the fuck did he violate the laws of nature?
If there was a god and the laws of nature were violated, I suspect out universe would be a mite crazier.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know it well enough to say God did not create every thing.
You have no choice to back peddle because you know your real belief that he did create everything is scientifically absurd and morally repugnant.
It is called cherry picking. God only does pleasant things, well, thats what you want to believe despite all the gory nasty shit in the bible he watches over and or even condones or does himself.
So lets here the other cop out excuses.
Metaphor
Misinterpretation
You just don't understand
God can do what he wants
You hate God
God works in mysterious ways
Any excuse is a good one for the gullible.
Maybe you should try on a little reality for size. You merely like the idea of having a super hero. You should not feel alone, our species has constantly concocted deities/super natural/ super heros. It is an anthropomorphic reflection of human narcissism and a refusal to face our finite existence. Sugar pills feel good, but they are still nothing more than sugar pills.
Hey, prove to me I'm wrong, you're so sure of yourself let's see how good you really are or aren't. Because we are discussing creation with the assumption that God is real I'll give you a hint the answer can only be found through scripture, see what a nice guy I am giving you a head start.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Quote:why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
And a pointless one. Jack and the Beanstalk has a better plot and more interesting characters.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 8:24 pm
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(June 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm)frankiej Wrote: I would assume it was due to boredom. (June 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm)Drich Wrote: You have been given a window into His nature. After all apart of you was made in His image. So put yourself in a state of nothingness, and ask yourself would you remain there? if so how long before you decided to make a change well with in your ablity to do so?
Just incase anyone needs a guide on how to stretch what could be said in an eight word sentence into a fifty-three word paragraph.
Truly amazing.
(June 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You have no choice to back peddle because you know your real belief that he did create everything is scientifically absurd and morally repugnant.
It is called cherry picking. God only does pleasant things, well, thats what you want to believe despite all the gory nasty shit in the bible he watches over and or even condones or does himself.
So lets here the other cop out excuses.
Metaphor
Misinterpretation
You just don't understand
God can do what he wants
You hate God
God works in mysterious ways
Any excuse is a good one for the gullible.
Maybe you should try on a little reality for size. You merely like the idea of having a super hero. You should not feel alone, our species has constantly concocted deities/super natural/ super heros. It is an anthropomorphic reflection of human narcissism and a refusal to face our finite existence. Sugar pills feel good, but they are still nothing more than sugar pills.
Hey, prove to me I'm wrong, you're so sure of yourself let's see how good you really are or aren't. Because we are discussing creation with the assumption that God is real I'll give you a hint the answer can only be found through scripture, see what a nice guy I am giving you a head start.
Well, its softer than a newspaper and more of a read than the average toilet roll.
May as well give it a try before you utilize its most useful function Brian.
Might even give you a laugh or two before you flush.
... :-)
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 11:10 pm
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(June 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm)Thor Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
What are you talking about? Either your deity created everything or he didn't. Which is it?
Don't be so lazy, read and find out for yourself, could it be you're afraid God might actually show you something and you'll find a need to believe, just sayin'.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 20, 2012 at 12:34 am
(June 19, 2012 at 7:55 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (June 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)gomtuu77 Wrote: I would suggest that it was because it pleased Him to do so. In addition, it was another way in which He could express his only perfectly virtuous and just nature. And having more epxression of perfection is better than less, at least from my perspective.
Yep, sends bears to maul children to death.......
Very just and virtuous indeed.
Sounds more like a petulant child having a temper tantrum than a supreme deity to me. What does the fact that bad things occur have to do with God expressing His perfectly just and virtuous nature more fully? Is it your understanding that bad things should not happen in the context of fallen free creatures and that the fact of their happening is somehow evidence against God's nature?
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 20, 2012 at 1:38 am
Quote:2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Apparently, god sends bears to maul children.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 20, 2012 at 4:43 am
(June 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 19, 2012 at 6:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote: We have read it, repeatedly.
Your point?
Gen1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forthabundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Says here that god created every living creature.
Don't know your own book very well do you......
I know it well enough to say God did not create every thing.
And where in the bible does it say that?
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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