PLACEBO is not a real medicine and it works in many even without rants from quran verses. the devil can perform such signs to make you believe. but if u were possessed? there's no way that rant from quran will work. that's a very simple performance. Jesus can do more!

(July 17, 2012 at 5:07 pm)DEM Wrote: PLACEBO is not a real medicine and it works in many even without rants from quran verses. the devil can perform such signs to make you believe. but if u were possessed? there's no way that rant from quran will work. that's a very simple performance. Jesus can do more!

Well it felt like I was possessed, certainly, it did. I had hallucinations that first seemed positive, as if I saw Prophets and dead believers (the barzakh), and special the 12 Imams, in spiritual form, (can't explain it)...then came later negative experiences, including possession from "Jinn".

It took me a long time to realize what I experienced was a hallucination, and not truly in the realms of hidden reality....but I do remember the possession feeling going away once the man came and recite verses and made me look at his ring with a stone with the name of God on it. Then he insisted the devil/jinn in me is killed. Some people have a gift in creating placebo.

It works sometimes, it doesn't work other times. And they make a living out of it.

(July 17, 2012 at 5:07 pm)DEM Wrote: Jesus can do more!

Jesus can't do a goddamned thing! Don't believe me? Ask Jesus to cure every person in the world who is blind. Know what will happen? Nothing. Just like every other time you ask Jesus to do something.

This thread is becoming the land of retardation.

To the OP, because this thread is still active.

(July 16, 2012 at 5:05 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: If you think epistemology is a pointless discussion, then you must not be interested in knowledge. I haven't really seen any convincing arguments for ignorance before; care to offer yours?

I can't really blame frankiej for being apathetic (not ignorant as you erroneously assert), as you make this "god" thing sound so horribly boring, so mind-numbingly dull, its enough to make anyone stop giving a shit.

Yes, I stopped giving a shit many moons ago... I was also rather drunk when I was posting the other day. It really isn't like me to jump into discussions of this nature.

Wow I was actually going to try to post a serious response to the OP and then I started to read the thread and just decided to say to hell with that. Even just this last page is enough to make it not worth it.

(July 17, 2012 at 5:07 pm)DEM Wrote: PLACEBO is not a real medicine and it works in many even without rants from quran verses. the devil can perform such signs to make you believe. but if u were possessed? there's no way that rant from quran will work. that's a very simple performance. Jesus can do more!

The fuck are you smoking? Placebo effect is actually pretty common in medicine and psychology and has nothing to do with demons.

The Sugar Pills experiments is a fine example of this actually. Granted psychology used to be considered the study of demonology in the dark ages but we soon found out that that is actual rubbish and that people do have mental illnesses rather so called possessions.

jesus can do nothing as he is long gone