(July 21, 2012 at 11:01 am)The Magic Pudding Wrote: "Does anyone have one reason that supports infallibilty?"

Ye I want people to do what I tell them, believe what I say. If I say something and it is in conflict with what they know they need to reconsider what they know.

Holy shit! I ain't seen you in ages, Mr Pudding!

(July 21, 2012 at 9:19 am)genkaus Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 8:47 am)catfish Wrote: You claim that the Bible makes the claim of infallilbilty. That's what I want to see proof of. Now the OP is actually being addressed...

Show your work, k?

Aren't you the one who made that claim? Since you argued that if it predicts its own errors and lies then it is infallible.

No, I didn't make that claim. I came here wanting to debate a Christian who would make that claim but so far, you're the only who has...

(July 21, 2012 at 11:22 am)catfish Wrote: No, I didn't make that claim. I came here wanting to debate a Christian who would make that claim but so far, you're the only who has...

You came to an atheist forum to debate a Christian?

(July 21, 2012 at 11:03 am)frankiej Wrote: Holy shit! I ain't seen you in ages, Mr Pudding!

Haven't seen me in ages?
Not even in your dreams?
Ye well I'll be sending off some strongly worded demand for refund emails.


Hey get with it, if you'er doing it and you're not doing it with the pope, you're fucked.

(July 21, 2012 at 11:25 am)genkaus Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 11:22 am)catfish Wrote: No, I didn't make that claim. I came here wanting to debate a Christian who would make that claim but so far, you're the only who has...

You came to an atheist forum to debate a Christian?

Is English not your native language? What did I write?

Quote:My main concern is with the infallible theory.

So, you want to talk about infallibility without discussing the fallacies? Does that about sum it up?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Bible-Unearthe...0684869136

Quote:In this iconoclastic and provocative work, leading scholars Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman draw on recent archaeological research to present a dramatically revised portrait of ancient Israel and its neighbors. They argue that crucial evidence (or a telling lack of evidence) at digs in Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon suggests that many of the most famous stories in the Bible -- the wanderings of the patriarchs, the Exodus from Egypt, Joshua's conquest of Canaan, and David and Solomon's vast empire -- reflect the world of the later authors rather than actual historical facts.

Challenging the fundamentalist readings of the scriptures and marshaling the latest archaeological evidence to support its new vision of ancient Israel, The Bible Unearthed offers a fascinating and controversial perspective on when and why the Bible was written and why it possesses such great spiritual and emotional power today.

Seek and ye shall find.

(July 21, 2012 at 11:25 am)genkaus Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 11:22 am)catfish Wrote: No, I didn't make that claim. I came here wanting to debate a Christian who would make that claim but so far, you're the only who has...

You came to an atheist forum to debate a Christian?

I'm still waiting for genkaus to support his claim that the Bible claims infallibility.

(July 30, 2012 at 4:14 pm)catfish Wrote:

(July 21, 2012 at 11:25 am)genkaus Wrote: You came to an atheist forum to debate a Christian?

I'm still waiting for genkaus to support his claim that the Bible claims infallibility.

I never said the bible was infallible. I leave those sorts of stupid statements upto the Christians.

(July 21, 2012 at 8:31 am)genkaus Wrote: What you fail to completely understand is that neither the German scientist's book nor the transcript have ever been claimed to be infallible. Your bible does. Which means both that nobody lied and everything was transcribed correctly.

Bolded for emphasis (mine).
These are your words, not mine. You made the claim that the Bible claimed to be infallible. Care to deny your own words?

You're being dense, catfish.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t002.html

Quote:Christians do not claim that the humans who penned the books of the Bible were always accurate in everything they said or did. We simply believe that the Bible is right when it claims that God guided these men in their task of writing Scripture, in such a way that the result is an infallible book.

Quote:2 Timothy 3:16 contains the classic claim that the Bible was produced by God, not just men:

All Scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Ironically, 2 Timothy and the other pastoral epistles are later forgeries by some xtian liar using the name of "Paul" to impress the other dolts.

Leave it to xtians to base a claim of infallibility on a forgery!