(September 11, 2012 at 8:00 am)A Theist Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 7:59 am)Stue Denim Wrote: So then which american news organisations are centrist/unbiased?

FOX!

Are you actually that stupid, or are you just putting on a show?

(September 11, 2012 at 8:39 am)Faith No More Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 8:00 am)A Theist Wrote: FOX!

Are you actually that stupid, or are you just putting on a show?

I asked that very question of you guys. Your brains have turned to Zombiefied Silly Putty from watching too much leftist news propaganda.

That's precious

(September 11, 2012 at 8:57 am)LastPoet Wrote: That's precious

Definitely! HA HA HA HA !!!!!!

(September 11, 2012 at 8:52 am)A Theist Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 8:39 am)Faith No More Wrote: Are you actually that stupid, or are you just putting on a show?

I asked that very question of you guys. Your brains have turned to Zombiefied Silly Putty from watching too much leftist news propaganda.

If you compare them to Fox, yeah, any news station is going to look like their biased for the left in the same way that Charles Manson is a nice guy if you compare him to Hitler.

However, let's play this game a little, shall we? I claim that Faux News is biased. Highly biased. Probably the most biased news source outside of Al Jazeera. You say they aren't or, at least, that the other news outlets are more biased than they are? Sound like an accurate statement?

Ok, fine. Time to put up or shut up. You say the rest of the news sources are biased, show me proof. Examples of their bias. Fact that they've gotten wrong. Stories that they changed specifically or, better yet, them contradicting themselves to better fit the party lines.

As much as it would be easy for me to do that with Faux News, I really don't need to. Someone has already done that for me.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA...ature=plcp

So, now it's your turn conservatives. I gave you a long list of specific examples of Faux News showing a specific bias towards conservative positions, I've shown examples of them spreading speculation or outright lies and presenting the as facts. I've shown them giving softball questions to the right or questions to the left that are intended to be self incriminatory (like asking "when did you stop molesting children?"). I've shown them omitting important facts that contradict their stance. Heck, there's even been a memo from their leaders that pretty much admits that they're biased.

So, I have all that right there, right? If that's the case, it should be easy enough for you to provide me just a few examples of the same from the left, right? I'm sure you can provide me examples of MSNBC spreading speculation as fact or CNN contradicting themselves to fit party lines, right? Because so far, I haven't seen it. At best, the left wing bias has been far less blatant.

As I've stated, I want my beliefs to be challenged. If I'm wrong, if he mainstream media really is biased, I want to know so I can change my views. I simply haven't seen evidence of it. I guess that's the difference between Christians and atheists, though: atheists tend to need evidence to believe something while Christians can just run on faith.

(September 11, 2012 at 9:58 am)TaraJo Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 8:52 am)A Theist Wrote: I asked that very question of you guys. Your brains have turned to Zombiefied Silly Putty from watching too much leftist news propaganda.

If you compare them to Fox, yeah, any news station is going to look like their biased for the left in the same way that Charles Manson is a nice guy if you compare him to Hitler.

However, let's play this game a little, shall we? I claim that Faux News is biased. Highly biased. Probably the most biased news source outside of Al Jazeera. You say they aren't or, at least, that the other news outlets are more biased than they are? Sound like an accurate statement?

Ok, fine. Time to put up or shut up. You say the rest of the news sources are biased, show me proof. Examples of their bias. Fact that they've gotten wrong. Stories that they changed specifically or, better yet, them contradicting themselves to better fit the party lines.

As much as it would be easy for me to do that with Faux News, I really don't need to. Someone has already done that for me.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA...ature=plcp

So, now it's your turn conservatives. I gave you a long list of specific examples of Faux News showing a specific bias towards conservative positions, I've shown examples of them spreading speculation or outright lies and presenting the as facts. I've shown them giving softball questions to the right or questions to the left that are intended to be self incriminatory (like asking "when did you stop molesting children?"). I've shown them omitting important facts that contradict their stance. Heck, there's even been a memo from their leaders that pretty much admits that they're biased.

So, I have all that right there, right? If that's the case, it should be easy enough for you to provide me just a few examples of the same from the left, right? I'm sure you can provide me examples of MSNBC spreading speculation as fact or CNN contradicting themselves to fit party lines, right? Because so far, I haven't seen it. At best, the left wing bias has been far less blatant.

As I've stated, I want my beliefs to be challenged. If I'm wrong, if he mainstream media really is biased, I want to know so I can change my views. I simply haven't seen evidence of it. I guess that's the difference between Christians and atheists, though: atheists tend to need evidence to believe something while Christians can just run on faith.

Bullshit dude! Are you really going to go there, posting youtube snippets from leftist hacks like 'Liberal Viewer'?...Please.


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...pd6dBW9VsM

BTW, this is not a Christian / Atheist issue. This is an issue of political ideologies.

(September 11, 2012 at 11:09 am)A Theist Wrote: Bullshit dude! Are you really going to go there, posting youtube snippets from leftist hacks like 'Liberal Viewer'?...Please.


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...pd6dBW9VsM

Ok, first off, you might avoid calling someone 'dude' when they've got tits like mine.

Not even close to the same thing for several reasons:

1) I asked for examples of liberal media bias, not liberal lies. There is a very big, important, distinct difference between the two.

2) If you bother to watch the videos, the speaker explains in language that anyone can understand what the bias is. I have heard conservatives complain about 'liberal media bias' a lot, but I have never seen it explained in a simple way.

3) Even memo's from the executives at Faux News show bias! I've even put a link to a story on it in the last statement.

However, the big flaw here is that if you're going to discredit a news source as biased as a knee jerk reaction without actually doing any of the research to find out whether it really is biased or to see if it's more or less biased than the other news sources, you're able to fall for anything. I mean, I can discredit even the most fundamental rules of life if I just have to claim they came from a biased source.

Quote:BTW, this is not a Christian / Atheist issue. This is an issue of political ideologies.

Not exactly, no, but I do see similarities. Christianity tells you to believe in them spite of facts that say otherwise. Faux News tells you to believe in them in spite of facts that say otherwise. I wonder if Faux News could get tax exempt status by claiming they're a church?

(September 11, 2012 at 11:33 am)TaraJo Wrote:

(September 11, 2012 at 11:09 am)A Theist Wrote: Bullshit dude! Are you really going to go there, posting youtube snippets from leftist hacks like 'Liberal Viewer'?...Please.


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...pd6dBW9VsM

Ok, first off, you might avoid calling someone 'dude' when they've got tits like mine.

Not even close to the same thing for several reasons:

1) I asked for examples of liberal media bias, not liberal lies. There is a very big, important, distinct difference between the two.

2) If you bother to watch the videos, the speaker explains in language that anyone can understand what the bias is. I have heard conservatives complain about 'liberal media bias' a lot, but I have never seen it explained in a simple way.

3) Even memo's from the executives at Faux News show bias! I've even put a link to a story on it in the last statement.

However, the big flaw here is that if you're going to discredit a news source as biased as a knee jerk reaction without actually doing any of the research to find out whether it really is biased or to see if it's more or less biased than the other news sources, you're able to fall for anything. I mean, I can discredit even the most fundamental rules of life if I just have to claim they came from a biased source.

Quote:BTW, this is not a Christian / Atheist issue. This is an issue of political ideologies.

Not exactly, no, but I do see similarities. Christianity tells you to believe in them spite of facts that say otherwise. Faux News tells you to believe in them in spite of facts that say otherwise. I wonder if Faux News could get tax exempt status by claiming they're a church?

First off, you can call yourself anything you want and more power to you. But as far as I'm concerned no amount of hormone injections or sex change procedures is going to change the fact that if a dude was born a dude, he's still a dude. But I'll refrain from calling you a dude anymore if you're happier with the self delusion.

Liberal lies aimed at conservatives is liberal bias. It's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
Every source you've cited is all leftist. It's all leftist slanted. It's all leftist biased TaraJo! You posted bullshit from leftist hacks!

(September 11, 2012 at 11:55 am)A Theist Wrote: Liberal lies aimed at conservatives is liberal bias. It's all the same as far as I'm concerned.
Every source you've cited is all leftist. It's all leftist slanted. It's all leftist biased TaraJo! You posted bullshit from leftist hacks!

Thank you for a perfect example of the flaw to your way of thinking.

Don't like the facts? Don't bother attacking them; attack whoever reported them by calling them 'leftist hacks.'

What a fucking dick you are. I hope you do something stupid and get banned. I don't give a shit that your opinions are about as intelligent as a bowel movement, but you should really keep them to yourself when they A. have nothing to do with the conversation B. are outside your area of expertise, presumably C. pertain to a person's personal life. Shame on you, you overblown, self-righteous cocksucker. Note: I mean cocksucker in an insulting way here. I understand that cocksucking is fine.

Personally, I think that falls under a personal attack because it was off-topic and highly insulting. I hope one of the mods gives you an ass reaming, you ugly motherfucker.