(September 17, 2012 at 8:22 am)Puddleglum Wrote: They could do now in the West what Muslims do now in the West so why don't they?

Because, as a matter of fact, they can't.

Because, as a matter of fact, they can't.

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Muslims DO kill their daughters in the west for 'family honour'

(September 17, 2012 at 10:42 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Because, as a matter of fact, they can't.

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Muslims DO kill their daughters in the west for 'family honour'

You have any specific examples where they do and get away with it?

(September 17, 2012 at 6:38 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Again lots of attempts to make parrallels but in the west Muslims are actually killing people because of their religion. They are defying laws and murdering their daughters and attacking people who insult their religion. Christians are NOT doing this, in the same countries. The 'would if they could' argument is false because they quite clearly could do these things.

Give the Christians time and people like me and other Atheist would go the way of the Jewish people in Germany under Hitler. They are very dangerous and need to be put back in their place(the churches) not in our Government.

(September 17, 2012 at 10:42 am)Puddleglum Wrote: Because, as a matter of fact, they can't.

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Muslims DO kill their daughters in the west for 'family honour'

I think I am right in saying the most common perpetrators of murder are the family members of the victim, unfortunately that is the same the whole world over.

You have any specific examples where they do and get away with it?

Did I say they get away with it? They do it whether they get away with it or not. Christians do not murder their children for family dishonour.

(September 18, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Puddleglum Wrote: Did I say they get away with it? They do it whether they get away with it or not. Christians do not murder their children for family dishonour.

My point is, because they are raised in a culture where they could get away with it, they attempt it even in cultures where they couldn't get away with it. Someone raised in a religious extremist culture - Christian or Muslim - would not hesitate to murder their children for family dishonor. Someone form a secular culture would.