(September 20, 2012 at 8:37 pm)jonb Wrote: Sorry Cinjin me not being clear, I'm the one with the emotional response, that is just doing the blame stuff.

I have no idea why you're apologizing jonb.

No idea whatsoever. Carry on sir.

Sorry for the double post. Please delete.

We watched that video... My 5 year old said, "Can she even talk?"...

LMAO

(September 20, 2012 at 9:03 pm)aleialoura Wrote: My 5 year old said, "Can she even talk?"...

Actually that's considered quite good pronunciation for the average Londoner


Cinjin
I thought he said then you said that then I butted in and you said that he said and I said, and then you said, and I thought you meant that........I get my coat.

I hope that clears it all up.

Apololgy accepted.

I agree with FrankkieJ in that 'you' have nothing to appologize for; however, I look beyond personal accountabily for the sake of continuing dialogue. What you need to realize is that Christians hide behind a scheme where 'they' are not held accountable; Christ died for their sins, right? The idea of vicarious atonement is reprehensible, but this is exactly the basis of Christianity. It's the most disgusting moral code ever invented.

The difference of opinion isn't the issue. The issue is that Christians continue to use this standard combined with an ancient text to attempt to dictate how I should conduct my life. This is where my understanding stops and I become unhinged. I would give great latitude to Christians if they only had the common decency to keep it to themselves; however, they seem hell bent on making me play by rules of life invoked by men living two centuries ago.

(September 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm)Cinjin Wrote: lol - yeah that's my problem. LMAO, I try to be a pussy so people will like me.

Being a pussy can make you pretty popular. Or was it having one..?

(September 21, 2012 at 12:50 am)cato123 Wrote: Apololgy accepted.

I agree with FrankkieJ in that 'you' have nothing to appologize for; however, I look beyond personal accountabily for the sake of continuing dialogue. What you need to realize is that Christians hide behind a scheme where 'they' are not held accountable; Christ died for their sins, right? The idea of vicarious atonement is reprehensible, but this is exactly the basis of Christianity. It's the most disgusting moral code ever invented.

The difference of opinion isn't the issue. The issue is that Christians continue to use this standard combined with an ancient text to attempt to dictate how I should conduct my life. This is where my understanding stops and I become unhinged. I would give great latitude to Christians if they only had the common decency to keep it to themselves; however, they seem hell bent on making me play by rules of life invoked by men living two centuries ago.

Two centuries ago? (Okay, I'm just being an ass, but it's always funny when someone gets part way through a rant and then runs out of talent. Carry on.)

(September 21, 2012 at 12:50 am)cato123 Wrote: Apololgy accepted.

I agree with FrankkieJ in that 'you' have nothing to appologize for; however, I look beyond personal accountabily for the sake of continuing dialogue. What you need to realize is that Christians hide behind a scheme where 'they' are not held accountable; Christ died for their sins, right? The idea of vicarious atonement is reprehensible, but this is exactly the basis of Christianity. It's the most disgusting moral code ever invented.

The difference of opinion isn't the issue. The issue is that Christians continue to use this standard combined with an ancient text to attempt to dictate how I should conduct my life. This is where my understanding stops and I become unhinged. I would give great latitude to Christians if they only had the common decency to keep it to themselves; however, they seem hell bent on making me play by rules of life invoked by men living two millenia ago.

Fixed!

lame.................

I take my politeness where I can get it. To the extent he's speaking for himself, I appreciate the apology and take it as a promise to do better in future. To the extent he's speaking for others, I totally get being ashamed of people on one's own side, so I value the sentiment. I hope it's a trend. It might be more boring on the various atheist and atheist-leaning forums if fewer Christian visitors come just to preach and troll, but it would reflect something good happening in RL.

Isn't the purpose of criticism to elicit improvement? Whatever you say about Jeff, and I've had my disagreements with him, it's clear he is sincerely trying to be reasonable, in the sense of not losing his cool and being willing to listen to different views. I find one guy like that more challenging than a dozen guys who just come to preach.