(October 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm)Waratah Wrote:

(October 9, 2012 at 9:39 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: ....<Snipped>
BTW religion is not declining in .au

"No religion/Religion Not Stated''
2006 - 30.6%
2011 - 22.3%

I am not sure where you got that information from, but the "No religion" in: (Australian census Link)
2006 was 18.7%
2011 was 22.3%

All the christian religions were down from the 2006 census.

I got the 2006 info from the ABS census site too.

"No religion/Religion Not Stated''
2006 - 30.6%
2011 - 22.3%

I included the religion ''Not Stated" numbers which is a 2006 Census option that was absorbed/replaced by "No Religion" in 2011.

Total # Christians in 2011 up 3.6% from 2006
Total population growth during that period up 8.3%

And you can bet that atheists arent contributing as much as theists to the population growth in .au

Was it Eric Kaufmann who said the contraceptive pill is like cyanide for atheism?

EDIT:Christianity is failing in Australia.

# Catholics up 6.1% from 2006
hock:
Thats a surprising jump.

'000

2006
5126.9

2011
5439.2

(October 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: DID YOU SEE H....how Darkstar played the "we dont need God to be good" card ronedee?

I never understood how atheists can really make that assertion.

People behave differently when they know (or think) they are being watched. The threat of punishment is a very real deterrent.
Moreover, the threat of punishment is societies way of publically ''directing traffic'' in relation to behaviour.

If immoral human behaviour is unaffected/uninfluenced by the knowledge that such behaviour may be or is being watched, why on earth
do we have plain-clothed (undercover) law enforcement personnel? Why bother using unmarked police cars? Why this?

Unfortunately there is nothing but closed minds here! They accuse me of the same old, same old. But all I've heard is mostly attacks and assumptions.

The only one who has actually anything construtive to say is a cut & paste freak!

I was going to layout a uniquely different view of Christianity thru creation, but this is the classic pearls at swine scenario! Why waste a single breathe when absolutely no one gives a ratz ass? Except for folly and sadistic purposes.

I've always said: Christians are smart. Agnostics are intelligent. And Atheists are just stupid. It's ultimately akin to sticking your head in the sand and hoping you don't get kicked in the ass!

There's a world of things we don't know about...But to just write off one of the most revered from the beginning.... and of all time..... is just plain dumb!

A's Motto: "I see, I do, I say, I think what I WANT, therefore I don't believe in God!"

That would be a good sign to hang on the door here! It would keep the riff-raff like us "xtians" out of their hair!

OK my good little piranha friends, start tearing up each line for me...and tell me what I REALLY MEAN!

(October 10, 2012 at 9:06 pm)ronedee Wrote: Unfortunately there is nothing but closed minds here! They accuse me of the same old, same old. But all I've heard is mostly attacks and assumptions.

The only one who has actually anything construtive to say is a cut & paste freak!

I was going to layout a uniquely different view of Christianity thru creation, but this is the classic pearls at swine scenario! Why waste a single breathe when absolutely no one gives a ratz ass? Except for folly and sadistic purposes.

I've always said: Christians are smart. Agnostics are intelligent. And Atheists are just stupid. It's ultimately akin to sticking your head in the sand and hoping you don't get kicked in the ass!

There's a world of things we don't know about...But to just write off one of the most revered from the beginning.... and of all time..... is just plain dumb!
A's Motto: "I see, I do, I say, I think what I WANT, therefore I don't believe in God!"

That would be a good sign to hang on the door here! It would keep the riff-raff like us "xtians" out of their hair!

OK my good little piranha friends, start tearing up each line for me...and tell me what I REALLY MEAN!

Nope, you meant exactly what you said, insultingly inaccurate generalizations and all. See that part I bolded? You are talking about theists, you know that right? Scientists are still trying to figure out how the universe began, but you seem content to say goddidit and move on. As for your 'motto', it makes no sense. We don't believe in god because there is no evidence, not becuase we want to do whatever. Wouldn't we be satanists, then? Also, I don't see how a view of christianity 'through creation' is uniquely different.

I live in Perth and I can tell you that youth groups aren't doing a very good job of converting. My youth group has turned into some sort of corporation now. I remember not too long ago the youth pastor took 20 mins of our time to display these nice little graphs he drew up of some stats, like how many new people had walked through the door and how many gave their lives to Christ.

It's funny how God is supposed to be so personal because he "called us by name" and "counted the hairs on our head" but yet we get treated like just another sheep. Jesus must have been influenced by those tax payers.. maybe he learnt a thing or two about accounting and business

(October 10, 2012 at 9:12 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Jesus must have been influenced by those tax payers.. maybe he learnt a thing or two about accounting and business

Well, he did associate with those 'evil' tax collectors...

(October 10, 2012 at 9:06 pm)Generalizing Douchebag Wrote: I've always said: Christians are smart. Agnostics are intelligent. And Atheists are just stupid. It's ultimately akin to sticking your head in the sand and hoping you don't get kicked in the ass!

A's Motto: "I see, I do, I say, I think what I WANT, therefore I don't believe in God!"

I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Thanks.

(October 10, 2012 at 9:06 pm)ronedee Wrote: I've always said: Christians are smart. Agnostics are intelligent. And Atheists are just stupid.

You've always said this? Then you are an intolerant arsehole, incapable (or unwilling) of distinguishing the dogma or lack thereof from the person; the 'sin' from the 'sinner', to use the brand names. Let's try it again:

Some Christians are smart. Some agnostics (theist or atheist?) are intelligent. Some atheists are stupid. Most from these groups are all three, about different things at different times. That's because they are people, fallible and quirky humans, and most of them probably wouldn't give a flying fox for your opinions of them, myself included.

Does that satisfy your little ego-boner?

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Incidentally, I notice how you redacted the thread title. What's up, frightened of a few words?

Has anyone else noticed that some of the post titles in this thread have "fuck" and others have "fxxx"? Weird.