Ok, while there really is nothing new that has not been said in some way before. Lets get creative to see if we can come up with a twist on any personal quote you have heard or a famous quote you have heard. Looking for stuff that promotes the idea of skepticism and the value of science and reason. It can be pro or it can point out the absurdity of superstition and faith.

BUT it strictly has to be your own words. Try not to post anybody elses quote.

I''ll start.

Theism is the art of feigning superiority with all the ignorant hypocrisy that feeds it.

If I am going to gamble, I'll gamble with what is, not gamble on fantasy.

If all naked assertions are true becasue we cant disprove them, then I am having a secret affair with Angelina Jolie.

The fallacy of faith is proven with the hypocritical use of practical reality like doctors and medicine.

Fantasy is fine for entertainment but you look rediculous when you pass it off as fact as an adult.

Labs and science exist becasue someone has to filter out the crap.

When you think something is real, it is incumbant to rely on independent skepticism. That is the only way to filter out personal bias.

Theism goes in, credulity comes out. Science goes in, reason comes out.

It is silly to beleive the sun is a god, but that did happen, so what makes anyone today think they are not making the same mistake?

Our pet gods we envented as a species, were not arround 4 billion years ago, what makes believers think they will be arround after we go extinct and our planet and sun dies as well?

If I had a nickle, as worn out as it is, still holds truth to the countless superstitious claims that have existed and persist today, would make Warren Buffet ask me for a loan.

You'll have to do better than quoting tradition or a book, there already is a long line of others with you doing the same thing.

If you can live without the dead superstitions of the past, you can live without the one you hold now.

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I am fine with being a finite blip, it is not the length of the ride, but merely being able to take the ride.

"We need a youth, that does not have ignorance at its foundations, ungratefulness in its walls, and sycophancy on its roof."

(October 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: "We need a youth, that does not have ignorance at its foundations, ungratefulness in its walls, and sycophancy on its roof."

I agree with most of that accept the "ungrateful" part. I don't think it is ungratefull, for example, just because you raise a child for them to come to their own conclusions or want something different than you. I understand what you are saying, but that is an ambiguous can of worms that often leads to appeal to authority, and that isn't aways good. But I do like the rest of it.

Authority as as an atult can only match the compassionate side of evolution when it is via consent. Appeal to authority without that consent is the dark side of evolution.

"This is the best quote ever because I said so!"

I can accept that people will always make claims I find to be absurd, but will speak up every time when they insist on viewing common law through their narrow prism to the point of subjecting the rest of us to it.

(October 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: "We need a youth, that does not have ignorance at its foundations, ungratefulness in its walls, and sycophancy on its roof."

I agree with most of that accept the "ungrateful" part. I don't think it is ungratefull, for example, just because you raise a child for them to come to their own conclusions or want something different than you. I understand what you are saying, but that is an ambiguous can of worms that often leads to appeal to authority, and that isn't aways good. But I do like the rest of it.

Authority as as an atult can only match the compassionate side of evolution when it is via consent. Appeal to authority without that consent is the dark side of evolution.

I do not know about your youth. But from what I see, our youth is most ungrateful, indeed. Their own conclusions or what I expect from them is not relevant. As you can read, I said "we", I speak in plurals, never in singulars. It's not appealing to authority either: the man who had said this word has defied many a ruling power, simply because he saw the ungratefulness in them, therefore he appealed to the youth of his days as not to be as them, as the youth is the authority of tomorrow, true?

I have no regrets, everything in my life has led me to where I am today, and that's not such a terrible spot.

(October 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm)Rayaan Wrote: "This is the best quote ever because I said so!"

That is the worst quote ever because I say so.

Damn, since polls are a mater of opinion, is there some lab we can test our competing quotes in?

"Go blow jesus out your ass."


( I think I have that one copyrighted.)

(October 25, 2012 at 4:21 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(October 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I agree with most of that accept the "ungrateful" part. I don't think it is ungratefull, for example, just because you raise a child for them to come to their own conclusions or want something different than you. I understand what you are saying, but that is an ambiguous can of worms that often leads to appeal to authority, and that isn't aways good. But I do like the rest of it.

Authority as as an atult can only match the compassionate side of evolution when it is via consent. Appeal to authority without that consent is the dark side of evolution.

I do not know about your youth. But from what I see, our youth is most ungrateful, indeed. Their own conclusions or what I expect from them is not relevant. As you can read, I said "we", I speak in plurals, never in singulars. It's not appealing to authority either: the man who had said this word has defied many a ruling power, simply because he saw the ungratefulness in them, therefore he appealed to the youth of his days as not to be as them, as the youth is the authority of tomorrow, true?

Nope, still don't like it because you do need to be ungrateful sometimes in order to buck the social norms to improve that society, otherwise the powers that be can and will always keep you in your place with the word "ungrateful".

"Learn from the past" says the same thing without the ambiguity or the stagnation.

I cant see any other law document outside the Constitution that reflects that attitude. You don't have to be an uncle tom and as Susan B Said "Well behaived women seldom make history".

If they accepted their leaders when they said "your being ungrateful" nothing would change.

I think what you are needlessly doing is pointing out hypocrisy. Part of human behavior is that we cant always be consistant every second of our lives and often hold opposite positions at the same time.

For example, I can see both the sides of the immigration issue. Too many people we cant keep track of can screw things up, especially the violent ones. But I also know that humans will always seek out resorces so I cant lose my compassion and forget that.

Our youth are unfortunatly woefully educated, and our crime is a much hire rate. But I don't see that as much the kids fault as society not building better conditions.

Where I see most of the ungratefulness is in the suburbs and high end. Far too many people who get to that point scapegoat those with less.While it is true no one owes you anything on a personal level, it is sick to take from a society and not give back.