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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 5:41 am
(October 29, 2012 at 1:09 am)Godschild Wrote: The Holy Spirit lives within us, go study scripture and stop asking childish questions.
The thing about childish questions is that children usually cut straight to whatever truth may be at the heart of the matter without any of the preconceptions and misconceptions that come with age. That's what makes them so awkward to those who have no truth and know it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 7:13 am
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(October 29, 2012 at 1:09 am)Godschild Wrote: (October 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm)Brakeman Wrote: So how does that work? Does your prayer group ask god to directly violate the laws of physics, or do they just ask him to change his omniscient unchangeable plan via magic woo?
Does any of your group ever get an actual answer, or are they satisfied with the "dial tone" of god? If your "two or more" group gets together, could they take a out-of-focus Polaroid of the holy spirit? The occult followers get those photos all the time, where's yours?
The Holy Spirit lives within us, go study scripture and stop asking childish questions. Typical childish theist response to ignore the two difficult questions of "How could god change his previously perfect plans due to prayer" and "does god actually speak to you", to focus on the joke question about ghosts. But hey, I'll play along. Since you seem to know scripture so well, how is the ghost described in 1 Samuel chapter 28:7-25? Do you see any Theological problems with that ghost?
Anyway, if you say that the holy spirit lies within you, where exactly does it reside? Is it your kidneys? Jesus thought that your soul resided in one's kidneys. Do you agree with that? Or are you one that believes that the blood pumping organ, the heart, is where the soul and holy spirit can reside? (hint- It wasn't until modern times that we knew that the brain was the source of our conscientiousness, the bible writer's didn't know that! Hence their use of "searching one's reins. {Kidneys})
How do you know when the holy spirit has entered your kidneys/heart/brain, if you insist that he is not a visible apparition?
In ACTS 19 there were christians who believed in jesus, but had not yet received the holy spirit. Turns out they had a faulty baptism and had to be rebaptised. Do any of your flock need to be rebaptised? If they can't feel the holy spirit in their kidneys, then they had better try that....or beer!
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 10:43 am
Quote:The Holy Spirit lives within us
Without evidence of that it is merely more of your pious prattle...which is so common.
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 10:50 am
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Common sense time, if you have something living inside of you...... you need to see somebody about getting your hands on antibiotics or treatment.
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 11:22 am
(October 29, 2012 at 10:50 am)Rhythm Wrote: Common sense time, if you have something living inside of you...... you need to see somebody about getting your hands on antibiotics or treatment.
it may be too late for that!
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm
(October 29, 2012 at 5:41 am)Stimbo Wrote: (October 29, 2012 at 1:09 am)Godschild Wrote: The Holy Spirit lives within us, go study scripture and stop asking childish questions.
The thing about childish questions is that children usually cut straight to whatever truth may be at the heart of the matter without any of the preconceptions and misconceptions that come with age. That's what makes them so awkward to those who have no truth and know it.
I've had a youth group and I know exactly what kind of questions can come from young people, especially those who know scripture. The questions asked by Brakeman did not come from a knowledge of scripture, they came from the same sad places that so many questions come from atheist, ignorance and a deluded sarcastic mind.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Is it so very necessary to have a knowledge of scripture to ask questions? How else can one learn anything? A more cynical person then I might get the impression that it's the asking of questions that is so feared by the theist, especially given the Olympic-standard gymnastics involved in evading them.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 12:56 pm
I don't need to read The Lord of the Rings to know that Sauron is not real.
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Quote:Is it so very necessary to have a knowledge of scripture to ask questions?
Stupid questions. The only kind G-C can handle.
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RE: Prayer not working
October 29, 2012 at 4:03 pm
(October 29, 2012 at 12:56 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I don't need to read The Lord of the Rings to know that Sauron is not real.
That's because he was obliterated when his ring was destroyed. It's in the book you didn't read! 
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