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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Like what? What kinda of scientific evidence would demand belief in God?
Scientific evidence for the Christianity fairy tale numskull, don't try to twist things around.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Drich Wrote: According to who? If we all naturally die, and the "after bit" happens to all of us. That makes it apart of nature.
Why do you assume you or rather 'we' have a complete understanding of nature?
So you are suggesting that the "afterlife" is part of nature and not "supernatural". Interesting.
I can see why you would find the prospect of living after death alluring. But that there is something vital that lives on is just so obviously a piece of wishful thinking that it really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Drich,
you honestly cannot think of one specific single thing not involving death or supernatural events that if true would disprove Christianity for you? Lying is a sin btw.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm
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I'm sure he can't, and I understand why.
When you believe in something which demands that you accept it completely, fully and without reservation, there exists nothing which will dissuade you from that belief.
If Jesus really did pull off the Second Coming, I am willing to bet that a majority of Christians would think he is an imposter if he acts in any way different from how they believe he should, or if he is not the long-haired gentle-faced caucasian man with a beard as he is generally depicted in Christian art. Could you imagine the reaction if Christ II preached for the acceptance of homosexuality because God is Love and appreciates all expressions of it?
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 5:04 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: NEW RULE
Your answer can't involve dying or supernatural events!
Why not?
I mean, as for the dying one, I can see that being a bit of a stretch, but the Bible is filled stories where god shows off his supernatural muscle just to prove himself to the people.
As for the question 'what would prove to me that Christiaity is true,' I'm very open minded on that one. You show me the proof and as long as it holds up to a little research, I'll go with it. So far, I haven't seen anything that can hold my belief any longer than it takes to look it up on wikipedia.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm
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(December 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm)Kousbroek Wrote: (December 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Like what? What kinda of scientific evidence would demand belief in God?
Scientific evidence for the Christianity fairy tale numskull, don't try to twist things around.
I am asking what does scientific evidence that proves the existance of God would look like.
(December 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Drich,
you honestly cannot think of one specific single thing not involving death or supernatural events that if true would disprove Christianity for you? Lying is a sin btw.
If you saw Christ in this life what could their possiably convince you that you were wrong?
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm)Drich Wrote: On the day I spit in Allah's eye, and tell Him he's done a crap job. Because everyone before mohammad is doomed to islam hell and everyone not born into whichever version is the current correct one is also going to islam hell. then I will believe that I might have been wrong about Christianity.
What about you what would it take to believe Christianity was true?
Proof of the existence of a god - plus proof it was THAT god -
IE - the god in person - explaining why he murdered children
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 8:15 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm)Drich Wrote: ...
(December 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Drich,
you honestly cannot think of one specific single thing not involving death or supernatural events that if true would disprove Christianity for you? Lying is a sin btw.
If you saw Christ in this life what could their possiably convince you that you were wrong?
I just want to juxtapose this with this:
Drich Wrote:Some seem to thing that the theist here are avoiding questions. I can not speak for everyone, but i know I don't unless the question is an attempt to derail the topic or is just beligerantly disrespectful or blasphmous.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm
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(December 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Drich Wrote: (December 2, 2012 at 5:04 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: NEW RULE
Your answer can't involve dying or supernatural events!
So dying is now a supernatural event?
If the new rule had read "dying or similar supernatural event" you would have a valid point. That you deliberately chose to interpret the sentence the way you did speaks volumes about your integrity and honesty. That you underscored your own deliberate misinterpretation with derisory laughter merely says you are a git. No wonder there's no agreement on more complex matters if you deflect the line of inquiry with the wording of a simple eight-word sentence. I submit that any meaningful dialogue with a person known for behaving in this sort of dickish way to avoid discussion is going to be impossible.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 2, 2012 at 8:37 pm
(December 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: ...
If the new rule had read "dying or similar supernatural event" you would have a valid point. That you deliberately chose to interpret the sentence the way you did speaks volumes about your integrity and honesty. ...
I'm afraid the more plausible answer is that it speaks volumes about his reading comprehension.
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