(December 5, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: The problem is not adequately answering the most sophisticated problems of theism, but still eagerly holding on to the mantle of the frontman of atheism.

The Courtier's Reply. It's not a problem if the purpose of the book was to address the most basic problems of theism.

(December 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Kousbroek Wrote:

(December 5, 2012 at 5:59 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: You can never justifiably say theism is a problem unless you can give good reasons why.

You are a nasty little man.

What, an extremist political movement exploiting Islamic fundamentalism to gain recruits is suddenly and inextricably a religious problem?

You know they found tons of porn in OBL's man-cave right? How could he have been a "true Muslim" if he was caught fapping to "Hot and Sexy Heartthrobs Sexy Nurse Lady Time 12"?

Come on, Google a picture in response to this one.

No wonder you bandy-about "intellectual vegetable". Compared to the hoops you jump through to do your trolling, everyone else is sitting still. At this point, I think it's less about not having as much bullshit energy as you and more about standing in awe at the contortions you go through.

(December 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: What, an extremist political movement exploiting Islamic fundamentalism to gain recruits is suddenly and inextricably a religious problem?

It sure is asshole.

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(December 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: You know they found tons of porn in OBL's man-cave right? How could he have been a "true Muslim" if he was caught fapping to "Hot and Sexy Heartthrobs Sexy Nurse Lady Time 12"?

Ahh porn drove them to 9/11 ...

Why not blame gays for it, is something they are used to ...

(December 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm)Kousbroek Wrote:

(December 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: What, an extremist political movement exploiting Islamic fundamentalism to gain recruits is suddenly and inextricably a religious problem?

It sure is asshole.

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(December 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: You know they found tons of porn in OBL's man-cave right? How could he have been a "true Muslim" if he was caught fapping to "Hot and Sexy Heartthrobs Sexy Nurse Lady Time 12"?

Ahh porn drove them to 9/11 ...

Why not blame gays for it, is something they are used to ...

Ah yes, homophobia. Typical of your discrimination.

(December 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Ah yes, homophobia. Typical of your discrimination.

(December 5, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: What, an extremist political movement exploiting Islamic fundamentalism to gain recruits is suddenly and inextricably a religious problem?

Yeah, exactly. Because it's damn hard to convince people to fly airplanes into buildings without getting them to believe there's a reward in the afterlife.

Besides the fact that it's nearly impossible to get someone to kill themselves in the name of no-god and the fact that it's so easy to get the devoutly religious to do some damn crazy things (Christians are guilty of this as well, not just Muslims). See, saying 'God wills it' protects your argument from logic or reason. You could turn around and say 'Maybe flying airplanes into buildings isn't going to help our political cause' and the response is that you're questioning god. Maybe you could say 'I'd rather find a way to continue serving god after this attack, so I'm not ok with a suicide attack' and the response is that you're questioning god. You could say 'Know what? I think you catch more flies with honey than vinegar' at which point they accuse you of questioning god. Do you see a pattern here, Vinny?

Off the top of my head, the only time I've seen that level of blind faith in strictly atheistic institutions was the soviet takeover of Russia an eastern Europe, but all they did was change the philosophy slightly: instead of blind fath and allegiance to god, they promoted blind faith and allegiance to the state. Either way, that kind of blind, unquestioning faith is extremely dangerous, whether it's from secular or theistic sources. The problem with religion is that so much of what they tell us encourages blind faith.

Quote:You know they found tons of porn in OBL's man-cave right? How could he have been a "true Muslim" if he was caught fapping to "Hot and Sexy Heartthrobs Sexy Nurse Lady Time 12"?

Do you really think that religious fundamentalists are as squeaky clean as they claim they are? "True Muslims" or "True Christians" are no less prone to perusing porn than anyone else.

Don't use the true scotsman's fallacy about it either. Having faith doesn't exempt you from wanting to have sex. It, or religious upbringing, tends only to make you have guilt about it.