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Good ol evil
#11
RE: Good ol evil
Isn't having faith in something you don't understand the point of theism? As an atheist will have faith only in what they do understand.
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#12
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 7:00 am)JohnDG Wrote: Isn't having faith in something you don't understand the point of theism? As an atheist will have faith only in what they do understand.

Does that mean you'll stop posting about things you don't understand??? Probably not...
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#13
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 6:55 am)catfish Wrote: Keep posting... It won't change the fact that the original meaning of many Hebrew words may never be fully understood.
Keep the faith though, proclaim the truth as if you were there... Undecided

Then how can you believe anything in the bible if none of it can be trusted?
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#14
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 7:07 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(December 7, 2012 at 6:55 am)catfish Wrote: Keep posting... It won't change the fact that the original meaning of many Hebrew words may never be fully understood.
Keep the faith though, proclaim the truth as if you were there... Undecided

Then how can you believe anything in the bible if none of it can be trusted?

Do you have trouble with the English language too? Who said "none"???
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#15
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 7:11 am)catfish Wrote:
(December 7, 2012 at 7:07 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Then how can you believe anything in the bible if none of it can be trusted?

Do you have trouble with the English language too? Who said "none"???
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Then how do you know which bits can be trusted?

And what then is your interpretation of Isiaih?
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#16
RE: Good ol evil
Catfish- I don't feel as though you thoroughly read the op. your third option is non-existent. God or satan? Those are the choices. Man is not a creator in the bible and we know this. No man did not create evil, he committed it. So is god evil or is satan more powerful than you think?
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#17
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 6:35 am)catfish Wrote:
(December 7, 2012 at 6:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So their sin is being the way god made them?

How did you infer that from what I wrote???? Did God create them ashamed?
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So every time you cover up your naughty bits, you're sinning? That's fucked up.
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#18
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 7:01 am)catfish Wrote:
(December 7, 2012 at 7:00 am)JohnDG Wrote: Isn't having faith in something you don't understand the point of theism? As an atheist will have faith only in what they do understand.

Does that mean you'll stop posting about things you don't understand??? Probably not...

I'm pretty sure I understand this topic better than you at this moment and clearly everyone else.
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#19
RE: Good ol evil
Take it easy John d. The moment you informed me of Isaiah I understood what you did. I am proceeding to ask who created evil (god or satan) because christians will deny it if you say god made evil. I am offering to them that if he did not, their only other option is satan...which would make him a creator. So, I understand.

See how catfish kept ditching the question? He even tried sayin MAN created evil. It's a simple question I asked and they won't just answer it because they fear what they would have to admit. So they treat it as non- important. God is evil... Yea sure that's not important. Idiots
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#20
RE: Good ol evil
(December 7, 2012 at 9:01 am)SpecUVdust Wrote: Catfish- I don't feel as though you thoroughly read the op. your third option is non-existent. God or satan? Those are the choices. Man is not a creator in the bible and we know this. No man did not create evil, he committed it. So is god evil or is satan more powerful than you think?

I thoroughly read and understand the OP. You created a false dilema and I saw another option which you don't seem to like. You also referenced "original sin", a Catholic doctrine which I do not like.

However, if you wish to use your logic, then God created the universe and subsequently, everything in it, end of story...

But how does this statement fit it terms of humans?
"One might argue that the bible says that satan " allowed evil to manifest in his heart." We'll, this still implies that it was created within him, that by "allowing" it to manifest in this way is still creation because the evil was not there before. It would be his tactic of creation. If he did not create evil, then god did." Would you still assert that man is not a creator?
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(December 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm)SpecUVdust Wrote: Take it easy John d. The moment you informed me of Isaiah I understood what you did. I am proceeding to ask who created evil (god or satan) because christians will deny it if you say god made evil. I am offering to them that if he did not, their only other option is satan...which would make him a creator. So, I understand.

See how catfish kept ditching the question? He even tried sayin MAN created evil. It's a simple question I asked and they won't just answer it because they fear what they would have to admit. So they treat it as non- important. God is evil... Yea sure that's not important. Idiots

OK dumbass, explain your interpretation of Isaiah then.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil"

With the creation of "light", wouldn't the creation of "darkness" follow?
With the creation of "peace", which word from the defition of RO would best fit?
I say it should be "trouble, calamity".
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